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47-old-red
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Posted: 14 Nov. 2019 at 11:58pm |
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hi all i have been chasing an issue (i think with my steering gear box) where i am feeling pops and clunks while operating the vehicle. its erratic and does not happen all the time, or when the vehicle is in the air. only under load driving around. i have opened and inspected the worm gear and it seems to spin true. and i have gone back and forth on adjusting the steering sector tensioner. can you recommend any content to troubleshoot this? i dont want to have to rebuild my steering box if i can help it... i cant even find a replacement box to order. thanks! |
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jeeper50
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One of the best ways I have found is to have a friend wiggle the steering wheel while you use your fingers to find any looseness or wear feeling for play between two parts as you work up or down the steering linkage. Just make sure your help moves it only when you tell them, so you don't get your fingers pinched. Verticle play in the bellcrank can cause a popping sound and excessive play in the steering.
Adjusting the slop out of the gearbox is not recommended as the worn parts probably have steps or non contact areas and that can cause binding during driving. Not good during a test drive
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Flatfender Ben
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If you can’t confirm it’s steering.
You might consider knuckle knock. You may have a loose or busted front axle joint. |
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DMusil
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Check to see if your pitman arm in pressed all the way on.
It can clunk on the engine block. |
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There is a bearing at the top of the steering column. If the rollers get loose in the cage, it will bind and pop a little. It can be intermittent and not happen all the time. A fix requires pulling the steering wheel.
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48willys
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Get someone to shake the steering wheel while you check all the joints and mounting points for all the steering components. Mine was making a popping and I finally tracked it down to a cracked bell crank mount on the backside of the frame tube.
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47-old-red
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this sounds most like what i am feeling.....
do you have any pics of a link showing this "cage and rollers" ? |
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make sure both ends of your drag link are adjusted correctly.
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If the ball ends on your bellcrank and pitman arm are worn flat on the sides of the ball, they can pop when they go over the ridge. Also check the drag link springs to see if they are broken. The bellcrank pin can wear and get "alligatored ". The knuckle bearings can also be shot.
If you turn too sharp the bendix joints can bind and pop also. Lots to look at. Oilly
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Here's a link to the shaft bearing that Walcks sells. In the picture it is hard to tell, but it is two piece kind of thing with ball bearings between the pieces. |
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47-old-red
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ok well it sounds like its NOT the steering gear box based on what you guys are saying..... i will have to park it in the dirt and have a friend turn the wheel lock to lock and see what i can find..... thanks!
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Bruce W
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It still could be. It could be a lot of things. It could be the horn brush at the lower end of the column. It could be the box loose on the frame. It could be the bellcrank bearings. It could be a cracked frame. It could be a broken spring. It could be a loose wheel. It could be a bad wheel bearing. It could be......... Take the advice that was given, get someone to help you, and find the problem. As I used to have to tell my customers, “It’s mighty hard to diagnose it over the phone, and even harder to fix it.” BW
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Good luck getting someone on the phone..please leave a message after the tone, your call is important to us, we'll return your call when we get back from Jeepin.. |
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Or not... BW
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It is NOT a Jeep Willys! It is a Willys jeep.
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FOUND IT!! turns out it was the front leaf spring bushing popping back and forth in the spring itself..... because the shackles are aftermarket (later style) garbage lol |
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Thanks for the update.
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