Artic Version original or added later?

Hello,

I am new to this Forum and think it is very cool that it exists. I purchased a 1947 CJ-2A this past weekend and plan on restoring it with my son. I quickly realized that I do not know a lot about the Willys, but am quickly learning.

The one I purchased is serial # 48988. From everything I have read it should have a windshield that lays down on the hood. The one I purchased is the "Artic" version that has a hood, stationary windshield, and doors. Is this something that was added later or was it original? I can see that a heater was added and it has a hydraulic pump for a plow.

Can anyone help me out with this?

Thanks, Mark

We like Jeep trucks too, what are ya hiding back there??

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[QUOTE=muley] We like Jeep trucks too, what are ya hiding back there??[/QUOTE

My eyes deceive me - do the letters on the body say 'Jeep Truck'?

Have you decided what direction you are going to move in? Are you just going to get it running first, or start a complete tare down? I believe most agree to get it going first.....

Do you know what you are shooting for in the end, i.e., off-roader, historically stock, yard rig, parade jeep, modified, etc.

In my experience, the hard top is nice, but depends what you are going for. It's not something I found to be easily taken on and off.... I love driving with the windshield down so I would not install one on my Jeep, however, my Dad has a Plow Jeep that the top will NEVER come off.

Good Luck, keep us posted! Thumbs Up

- Don't Let The Fatherless Ones Grind You Down -
- I like them stock, survivor's with original paint are my favorites -

Welcome to the Cj2A Page.

Looks like a great father and son project!

I would suggest rebuilding it in sections (Front axle, Engine, Transmission...) and keeping it on the road and doing some trips with other old Jeep people along the way. I would do the sheet metal last. That will keep the interest up. Many people do a full tear down and lose interest with there kids on what can become a long project.

Stev
1946 CJ2A Trail Jeep (The Saint), 1948 CJ2A Lefty Restored

Before you do a complete teardown and rebuild, drive it first so that you will get an appreciation of what you will be missing during the rebuild.

So many people buy a jeep, tear it down and store the parts in boxes. They then get discouraged, run out of money, run out of patience, run out of a place to work on it, etc. and the project gets abandoned.

Restoring a jeep to parade appearance is a worthy project and especially doing something with you son makes it even better. However, I firmly believe that driving the jeep before the restoration is important because it gives you some idea of what the jeep needs in the way of repairs. Make sure the brakes and steering work satisfactory and that the engine runs well enough to get it back to the house and drive it. See if it vibrates or makes unusual noises and make a list. Vary the speed, see if low range works, drive it on a trail...

Be sure to take pictures as you disassemble the component parts; it will help you with reassembly. Get a shop manual and use it for teardown and build.

Hope this helps. Jeeps are simple to work on, but the really purpose of a jeep is to drive it. Welcome to the world of flatfender jeeping!

46 CJ-2A #64462 "Ol' Red" (bought April 1969)(second owner)(12 V, 11" brakes, M-38 frame, MD Juan tub)

U.S. Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer(ret.)
U.S. Army Vietnam veteran and damned proud of it.

As SE Kansas 46 said get a shop manual. I also used the book "Jeep CJ Rebuilder's Manual 1946-1971 by Moses Ludel Bentley Publishers when working on my CJ5 and M38. Lots of good stuff. Lots of help here just ask. We like lots of pictures of your project too.

64CJ5 "Eeyore"
01TJ "Tigger"
52 M38 Severely demilitarized, "Popeye" The Coast Guard Jeep.
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No. Saw it on facebook.

DMusil

Looks great, really like the split window doors

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Mbowerman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 Mar. 2021 Location: Spring Grove IL Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mbowerman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Artic Version original or added later? Posted: 08 Mar. 2021 at 7:24pm
	Hello, I am new to this Forum and think it is very cool that it exists. I purchased a 1947 CJ-2A this past weekend and plan on restoring it with my son. I quickly realized that I do not know a lot about the Willys, but am quickly learning. The one I purchased is serial # 48988. From everything I have read it should have a windshield that lays down on the hood. The one I purchased is the "Artic" version that has a hood, stationary windshield, and doors. Is this something that was added later or was it original? I can see that a heater was added and it has a hydraulic pump for a plow. Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks, Mark

SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member x 3 Joined: 22 Jan. 2016 Location: S.E. Kansas Status: Offline Points: 3190	Post Options Post Reply Quote SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar. 2021 at 7:38pm
	Your jeep was originally a fold down windshield jeep. If you look at the lower corners of the hood towards the rear you will see the original bracket for the windshield pivot. Welcome to the forum and good luck with your project. We like pictures, by the way!
	46 CJ-2A #64462 "Ol' Red" (bought April 1969)(second owner)(12 V, 11" brakes, M-38 frame, MD Juan tub) U.S. Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer(ret.) U.S. Army Vietnam veteran and damned proud of it.

muley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 25 Jan. 2021 Location: idaho Status: Offline Points: 821	Post Options Post Reply Quote muley Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar. 2021 at 8:01pm
	We like Jeep trucks too, what are ya hiding back there??
	Joined Jan-8 2015 I never met a mule I didn't like! OD Mule 01-52 M38 Big Red 19fiddy CJ3A salad

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	Yep, that top was orignally on a M38. Old Jeeps get lots of mods.
	john

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	[QUOTE=muley] We like Jeep trucks too, what are ya hiding back there??[/QUOTE My eyes deceive me - do the letters on the body say 'Jeep Truck'?

Mbowerman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 Mar. 2021 Location: Spring Grove IL Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mbowerman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 1:34pm
	Thanks for your response. It is defiantly a truck and I think it is a Jeep, but not sure. It's in the garage where I bought the Willys. I was more focused on how much work I had ahead of me restoring.

ggordon49 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 30 June 2017 Location: Connecticut Status: Offline Points: 1436	Post Options Post Reply Quote ggordon49 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 1:49pm
	Have you decided what direction you are going to move in? Are you just going to get it running first, or start a complete tare down? I believe most agree to get it going first..... Do you know what you are shooting for in the end, i.e., off-roader, historically stock, yard rig, parade jeep, modified, etc. In my experience, the hard top is nice, but depends what you are going for. It's not something I found to be easily taken on and off.... I love driving with the windshield down so I would not install one on my Jeep, however, my Dad has a Plow Jeep that the top will NEVER come off. Good Luck, keep us posted!
	- Don't Let The Fatherless Ones Grind You Down - - I like them stock, survivor's with original paint are my favorites -

Mbowerman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 Mar. 2021 Location: Spring Grove IL Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mbowerman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 2:13pm
	I think we are going for more of a parade Jeep. We are doing a complete tare down and rebuild. We already have the top and windshield off and are planning on going with the original fold down windshield. Just something that looks good an to cruise around town with. The main reason I am doing this is because my 18 year old son has a huge interest in it. He is very knowledgeable and loves cars, but doesn't have much hands on experience with them. The Willys seems perfect because they are cool, small and simple.

Stev Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member Joined: 27 July 2016 Location: Cincinnati Status: Offline Points: 2384	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stev Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 2:26pm
	Welcome to the Cj2A Page. Looks like a great father and son project! I would suggest rebuilding it in sections (Front axle, Engine, Transmission...) and keeping it on the road and doing some trips with other old Jeep people along the way. I would do the sheet metal last. That will keep the interest up. Many people do a full tear down and lose interest with there kids on what can become a long project.
	Stev 1946 CJ2A Trail Jeep (The Saint), 1948 CJ2A Lefty Restored

DMusil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 23 Apr. 2019 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 271	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMusil Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 2:28pm
	Did you buy this out of Kiel, Wisconsin?
	DMusil

SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Sponsor Member x 3 Joined: 22 Jan. 2016 Location: S.E. Kansas Status: Offline Points: 3190	Post Options Post Reply Quote SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 2:35pm
	Before you do a complete teardown and rebuild, drive it first so that you will get an appreciation of what you will be missing during the rebuild. So many people buy a jeep, tear it down and store the parts in boxes. They then get discouraged, run out of money, run out of patience, run out of a place to work on it, etc. and the project gets abandoned. Restoring a jeep to parade appearance is a worthy project and especially doing something with you son makes it even better. However, I firmly believe that driving the jeep before the restoration is important because it gives you some idea of what the jeep needs in the way of repairs. Make sure the brakes and steering work satisfactory and that the engine runs well enough to get it back to the house and drive it. See if it vibrates or makes unusual noises and make a list. Vary the speed, see if low range works, drive it on a trail... Be sure to take pictures as you disassemble the component parts; it will help you with reassembly. Get a shop manual and use it for teardown and build. Hope this helps. Jeeps are simple to work on, but the really purpose of a jeep is to drive it. Welcome to the world of flatfender jeeping!
	46 CJ-2A #64462 "Ol' Red" (bought April 1969)(second owner)(12 V, 11" brakes, M-38 frame, MD Juan tub) U.S. Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer(ret.) U.S. Army Vietnam veteran and damned proud of it.

Mbowerman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 08 Mar. 2021 Location: Spring Grove IL Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mbowerman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 3:30pm
	Yes, bought it in Kiel this past weekend. Did I buy it from you?

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	As SE Kansas 46 said get a shop manual. I also used the book "Jeep CJ Rebuilder's Manual 1946-1971 by Moses Ludel Bentley Publishers when working on my CJ5 and M38. Lots of good stuff. Lots of help here just ask. We like lots of pictures of your project too.
	64CJ5 "Eeyore" 01TJ "Tigger" 52 M38 Severely demilitarized, "Popeye" The Coast Guard Jeep. 14 JK "Jake" To Trust Government Defys Both History and Reason. PUBLIC LAND Owner/User

cpt logger Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 23 Sep. 2012 Location: Western Colorad Status: Offline Points: 3039	Post Options Post Reply Quote cpt logger Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 10:48pm
	X3 on driving it first. X4, 5? on the pictures. These days with digital pictures, there is no excuse not to take pictures. Take pictures from every angle before you start the teardown. Take lots of pictures, get some (at least two) of every fitting, plug, & bracket from many angles. Get closeups as well as from further back so that you know where the fitting goes & which way it is pointing. Once you figure that you have enough pictures, take at least that many more, as you take them store them in at least two different places. It sucks to have a computer problem lose all your pictures for you. AMHIK. These days, I print two hard copies & store them in my shop & at a friends shop as well. Once you have pictures of before the teardown, start the teardown. With every component removal, stop & take some more pictures. Yes this can be frustrating, but they will save you a crap ton of frustration later. Trust as on this. Many of us know this from firsthand experience. BTW, I really like Willys pickups.

DMusil Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 23 Apr. 2019 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 271	Post Options Post Reply Quote DMusil Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar. 2021 at 11:32pm
	No. Saw it on facebook.
	DMusil

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	Welcome Mark! Looking forward to seeing where your flatfender adventure takes you and your son. Lots of knowledge and advice here on the page. Have fun! -Barry
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48walker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 17 Mar. 2017 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 366	Post Options Post Reply Quote 48walker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar. 2021 at 4:19am
	Looks great, really like the split window doors