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    Posted: 24 Nov. 2021 at 7:48pm
Interesting discussion; reminds me of many conversations regarding non-DOT tires on motorcycles. I've ran many non-DOT knobbies on my dual sport and they work much better than the DOT offerings off road, but have watched the knobs disappear before my eyes if used on the pavement much. Tried a trials tire once (super soft rubber) and the knobs came off!

I'll go through two rear tires to one front, and they're only around $80, but I get a lot of smiles in before they're done. Four UTV tires would be a much bigger investment to watch go away rapidly. 

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To support your point, I don't see supporting documentation on the need for DOT on many of these state 

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This "could" be the reason that the UTV manufacturers I deal with want DOT compliant tires. I doubt you will ever be challenged with non DOT on an antique Jeep on street or trail, but running a non dot tire on a UTV on the street you are more likely to be challenged.


DOT-APPROVED TIRES

In most places, the Department of Transportation has laws in place that restrict the types of UTV tires that can be used on the road. These restrictions help prevent damage to road surfaces and improve rider safety. Some off-road tires don’t have the appropriate tread to grip pavement, which can make handling and braking difficult on ATVs and UTVs.

There are many factors that contribute to DOT tire certification, but a big one is the tire’s tread. You can examine a tire’s sidewall to determine if a tire is DOT approved. Look for the letters “DOT” followed by a series of 10-12 characters. This code gives the date and location they were manufactured, the tire size, and a unique code for the company that manufactured them. It will be present on all DOT-approved tires.

Finding a good DOT-approved tire designed for street-legal ATVs and UTVs can be a real pain because most are designed to be road tires first and off-road tires second (or not at all). This is because it’s difficult to strike a balance between appropriate road tread and a tread that performs well on rocks or trails.

To get the best of both worlds, a great tire to consider is SuperATV’s AT Warrior Tire. The AT Warrior has a patent-pending tread pattern that maximizes grip on any terrain type. This pattern is what we call a tapered pyramid design. It’s different from a smooth lug because it’s able to gather, pack, and compress whatever material you’re riding on to create a hard, solid driving surface between each lug. This gives you a massive leg up when it comes to traction.

Every lug is also siped (meaning it has small slits in the rubber) to grab smooth surfaces more easily. Between each lug you will find small rubber ribs known as ejector ribs. These assist with cleanout on stickier terrain by flexing and vibrating as the tire rolls, ejecting whatever material has been packed in.


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All, 

I'm not against running non-dot tires.

I had no problem driving Fred's AgriJeep with his AG tires a few hundred miles and it was a blast.  (Thanks Fred!) and more than one person on this page runs stickies with my encouragement.

Sounds great Fuzz... 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatdogdonthunt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov. 2021 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by snave snave wrote:

My bad. Too many Chads. The post was for Chad 1 but that don’t matter. We live in a rural community in NW Mo. Dot compliance checking has never been a problem. Mo has a state inspection process, and I always have the Pro Comps on at that time. I agree it would be interesting to get a feel around other parts on this subject. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote snave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov. 2021 at 7:09pm
My bad. Too many Chads. The post was for Chad 1 but that don’t matter. We live in a rural community in NW Mo. Dot compliance checking has never been a problem. Mo has a state inspection process, and I always have the Pro Comps on at that time. I agree it would be interesting to get a feel around other parts on this subject. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rocnroll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov. 2021 at 6:37pm
Well, we have two Chad's going on this thread so I'll just play like you were talking to me with this thought LOL.....I agree with everything you just said and tires are Keith's life so I trust his opinion without any doubts here on this subject (and I was pretty sure he would definately bring up the accident situation.

I think the other Chad had valid points with his thinking on weight of vehicle and usage off road....(these are also my thoughts on the subject)

I was just wondering how others in states not in my area reacted to laws and DOT standards...no harm intended, I know I live in an area that is more lax than some....we are pretty 'small town' here where I am.


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Chad most Jeepers I know don’t care a whit about DOT compliance. Joe Friday’s comment about a wreck is most certainly valid. That being said…… Rojo has been running a set of USDStickies for almost a year. I change back and forth. They are a 32 x 10.00 x 15. They are not DOT compliant. They actually measure close to 33 1/2 inches. They have large side lugs. They have a durometer of 50 to 52. They drive on the road extremely well considering the lug size. They are unbelievably “sticky”! Do to the softness they wear rapidly, but they can be a lot of fun compared to other tires. You can see them on Instagram at richardevans871 and Bridog’s you tube channel.    Oh and yes they expensive and they are AMERICAN made!
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First sentence "for off road use".  Not intended to be a discussion about legalities that vary drastically from one location to the next.  Simply put one of my mechanics also runs an ATV repair shop.  He was showing me his cost on tires compared to list.  The sizes and prices were very good based on what I want to run.  We then discussed offering these to others on this page as a way to help you all out since we receive so much good help here.  It would also help him get better pricing due to volume of sales.  Each of us can decide what we want to run on our vehicles.  
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Originally posted by Downs Downs wrote:

I've never once had an inspection station look at my tires for a DOT stamp, just tread depth. It's for sure a thing but never enforced.  At least around here for non commercial drivers. 

I actually had a shop check mine, he was concerned NDTs weren’t DOT, but they do have the stamp. He was also worried about no seat belts, but a quick look in the book and I was on my way . It was a new shop and he just got his license, I think it made his day though he didn’t even charge me for the inspection   
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I've been running 32x9.5x15 BFG KM3's for UTV's on my 3A since April.  I've driven mostly on pavement with occasional wheeling trips.  I like them so far.  I've probably driven 1,000 miles on them.  My top speed is around 45 mph and I drive with about 20psi on pavement.  They flex very well and I've had them air down to 8psi without losing a bead.  

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  DOT (USDOT) is a federal entity that passes regulations that it expects the several states to enforce (CDOT, WyDOT, UDOT, AzDot, KDOT, etc). This is another example of the Federal Government enforcing its will against the states by way of extortion. Most of you would be surprised at how many regulations you violate without knowing it, or ever seeing most of them enforced. One example is the disabling of parking lights to use those lights as turn signals. Usually, transport or use across state lines is necessary for it to become a crime. Usually, no one will ever know, unless as Joe said, you are involved in an accident, when the lawyers start looking for a reason to sue.
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The only time I ever had a blowout was due to sidewall flexing on a low tire at highway speeds.
Sidewall flexing is a good thing at low speed, off road.
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I would doubt that you would be hassled if you didn't have DOT on your tires in normal driving situations.
If you were in a serious injury accident, that's a different situation.

It may surprise most of you, but SXS, UHV,  OHV and ATV's are considered a nuisance by most nature and recreational off-road areas. I'll try to find a few links to the actual legislation.
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I've never once had an inspection station look at my tires for a DOT stamp, just tread depth. It's for sure a thing but never enforced.  At least around here for non commercial drivers. 
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Are your states really that strict on stuff like that?....if so, I'm pretty glad to live where I live.

I'm 64 and don't recall anybody ever looking at the sidewall stampings on a tire since I got my drivers license many moons ago. Wacko



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Originally posted by Joe Friday Joe Friday wrote:

Not knowing where you plan to run your Jeep or ATV, I don't know what kind of complications you may run into.

The ATV manufacturers have  done quite a bit of research into local regulations, and some places have specific requirements for not only DOT stamping, but max/min inflation stamping on the sidewall.
Do you mean that some off road trails have a requirement for DOT tires or that some states have different requirements for highway use?
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