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    Posted: 13 Dec. 2017 at 2:43am
many thanks!! I'm pretty sure there is no pressure in area of crack..if cylinder walls clean up ok i will probly patch it...i think this block is only bored .03...any clue as to age of said block ??
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Originally posted by cowboy64 cowboy64 wrote:

since i'm not the first to get off topic !! Lol..i just found a GPW #73715...unfortunantly she has crack about 2" below dist.....salvage or boat anchor ??

That crack is fairly common, and a lot of blocks have been scrapped because of it. But they are becoming scarce, and some folks have had fair-to-good luck with repairing them, in a number of different ways. I would not scrap it. I have a CJ engine in my GPW that has been cracked and welded. The weld looks like it was put there by a pigeon, but it almost doesn't leak. It seeps just enough to stay always wet, but never enough to run down and drip off. It's such a sweet running engine, there's no way I would throw it away.
  GPW engines are quite a bit scarcer than CJ's, and if you don't wish to try to repair it or have it repaired, someone else would.     BW
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one other quick question...can some one tutor me on posting pictures?? I do hav I phone but no pc.
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since i'm not the first to get off topic !! Lol..i just found a GPW #73715...unfortunantly she has crack about 2" below dist.....salvage or boat anchor ??
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Originally posted by athawk11 athawk11 wrote:

Originally posted by Ol' Unreliable Ol' Unreliable wrote:

From "All-American Wonder", vol. II pg. 188, that engine was used in a GPW built on either June 28 or 29 1943.  The engine would have been produced some time before that.

Wow.  Didn't know we could be so specific.  Nice info.

Jydresto,  Some here (Bruce W and others) and some at the G503 site would probably love to get their hands on that motor.  Especially if she's a good runner.

Thanks for the plug Tim, but I have two GPW engines now. I think I'm good for the time bein'. Thumbs Up  BW
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Now that I think of it, I shouldn't say the jeep was "built" on a certain date; rather, I should say it was "accepted" on that date.  The government inspector would have decided if it could be accepted or not and it might have had to go back for rework.  I don't know if or how one could tell if it needed rework.

BTW, the engine in Ol' Unreliable runs very well for one used in an October '43 GPW.  I'd think about trading it for a newer Go-Devil that runs as well.


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Originally posted by Ol' Unreliable Ol' Unreliable wrote:

From "All-American Wonder", vol. II pg. 188, that engine was used in a GPW built on either June 28 or 29 1943.  The engine would have been produced some time before that.

Wow.  Didn't know we could be so specific.  Nice info.

Jydresto,  Some here (Bruce W and others) and some at the G503 site would probably love to get their hands on that motor.  Especially if she's a good runner.
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In 1963 I purchased a 1947 CJ2A.  I know nothing of its history.  It had a head on it with script Ford in an oval to the passenger side close to #3 and #4 spark plugs.  Really to bad that I sold that Jeep in 1970.  I would like to have more numbers to add to this discussion.     
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my guess is that it ended up on an army base, never went to the japenese or european theatre of the war and was later sold to the public- where the engine was pulled and put in my ‘47
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From "All-American Wonder", vol. II pg. 188, that engine was used in a GPW built on either June 28 or 29 1943.  The engine would have been produced some time before that.
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yes- my cj-2a looks the same as the engine you posted. I have the Ford ‘F’ on the cylinder head and the ‘w’ on a curve- and no stars on the serial number. Thank you all- question answered. Can one of you now point me in the direction where i can get the year the engine was produced based on the serial number? If you re interested to know, the serial number is GPW-I24772
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Does the serial number look like this?

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Is that 'W' actually a 'curved W'?  That may be why it looks crude.  Somewhere there is a picture of a 'curved W' serial number, but I don't recall where.  The engine in my 2A is a Wilson Foundry 'curved W' GPW block.
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Ford did stop production, and Willys stopped production of MB's. But up until the end of the war, both were building jeeps as fast as they could. When the war ended, the contracts were cancelled, and production stopped. (I've often wondered, did the one that had just started down the line, continue on?) But you can be sure that there were a LOT of engines, as well as every other part of a jeep, ready and waiting to go onto the assembly line at that time. Ford and Willys were not only supplying jeeps, they were also supplying all manner of service replacement parts. There are pictures of engine assembly rooms, test facilities, and storage facilities packed with engines. When production stopped, there were lots and lots of parts already made and ready for the line or to be shipped to using units, that were no longer needed. This is but one small example.
  Whether Willys got any Ford engines in the buy-back program, I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet that Willys was not about to install a Ford engine in a jeep on their assembly line. I'd bet that Ford buy-back engines were sold to outlets like Sears, Montgomery Ward, Western Auto, etc.   BW
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thank u- it does have the prefix Gpw on the block. Not sure why the file didnt attach. The w looked a little funny that is why i wondered.  Case solved.
With that said- were Gpw engines easy to find after the war? I i thought Ford stopped production.
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Not seeing an attachment.  I would like to see it if you can post the photo.

That said, if your block has a GPW prefix in front of the serial number, it is NOT a buyback engine.  It is a GPW engine removed from a GPW and installed in your 2A.  

If you have an interest in selling it, it would be far more valuable to a GPW guy than any buyback engine.
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maybe this is a long shot but attached is my serial numbered block. The stamping is a bit crude- the W in GPW looks as if it was added later. By chance is this one of the buybacks? I understand they are rare.
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