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    Posted: 26 Feb. 2024 at 5:28pm
Just purchased my second CJ-2A #100048...Found this in my oil pan today....Anybody able to tell me what it might be?  Not being an engine guy, (yet)...I'm guessing it's not good.  No metal shavings though in the sludge....She was sitting for at least 5 years and previous owner said she had a ring job done on it awhile back.....Odometer is reading 60K actual miles...apparently was only driven to church on Sunday for the last 75 years. LOL  Appreciate any insight/condolences....

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Maybe part of a valve guide?

I've been in your situation before... keep an open mind... it may be a relic from damage that's already been made right... or sorta right.

When I pulled the pan off ours I found a 4" length of pushrod (v8), but all the pushrods were fine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TERRY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb. 2024 at 5:34pm
Looks like someone dropped a valve keeper when doing some engine work. I think I found 2 in my oil pan.
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Yes it’s a valve spring retainer lock.
Likely that one of the locks is missing underneath a valve retainer.
You best take a look at the valve locks.


Edited by oldtime - 26 Feb. 2024 at 6:46pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FrankenWilly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb. 2024 at 7:28pm
Awesome...Thanks guys....Well...I guess this is a good way to learn about the engine....Always an adventure.

Really appreciate the help....feel free to throw any words of wisdom my way...
I always appreciate the "make sure you don't..." kind of advice. 

LOL

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Likely  none are missing. if I dropped one, a trip to  the parts store beats dropping the pan to retrieve  it.LOL
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Originally posted by TERRY TERRY wrote:

Likely  none are missing. if I dropped one, a trip to  the parts store beats dropping the pan to retrieve  it.LOL

  Yep. Once in the pan, it won’t hurt a thing. 
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 I have found them in oil pans too. Easy to drop them especially if you have hands like mine. 
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Good copy....thanks again guys...after some research I can see how that could happen very easily.
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I have dropped them before but never lost one down into the oil pan, usually just falls down beside the tappet where you can pick it up and try again. Not a bad idea to stuff a rag into the gallery when working on a valve especially if the valve is near the end.
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If there is room, I put a cow magnet blocking the oil return galley. It usually catches the valve keepers, or anything else I drop. Rags work as well, but the keepers can continue to fall onto the floor. With the magnet, I just pull them off the magnet instead of crawling on the floor to find them.

I just bought an old tool for just this purpose. It looks like a pair of thin pliers with magnets in the jaws. They hold the keepers in place as you either install or remove the valve. I have not had a chance to use it yet. We will see how well it works the next time I mess with valves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dasvis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb. 2024 at 12:42am
Great tip.
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