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    Posted: 22 Dec. 2005 at 6:00pm
I have a couple of generators in my pile, What is correct for a early 2a? Where can I find numbers for these items like, starter, generator, distributor for each year? Am I asking too much? Is there a common site for a given serial  or part # for that year vehicle? I'm talking about specifec #'s for Auto-lite or delco #'s  Am I dreaming?
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I have GDZ 4817 for 6v CJ2A
GEG 5101D (Correct for an MB) may have been used for the very early ones. I am sure we will hear more opinions. I will add the results to the site.

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Gary:

Finding all the correct Autolite numbers is a matter of getting hold of a few manuals.

The original Willys "Popular Parts List", and the '45 Maintenance manuals have the best numbers, and an Autolite Service Manual for the time period has lots of good numbers too.

CJ2A were only delivered w/GDZ-4817 generators and MZ-4113 starters.  Standard distributor was IGW-4177A, dustproof was IAD-4008.

After 1949, if you went in to buy replacement parts, you would have been given different parts (those currently in use for CJ3As).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GaryArf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Dec. 2005 at 2:17pm

Sean, You are right. I probably need to buck up and get the right manuels. I never had any motivation to be "Correct" in the past and now that I have to be, I need to be more specific in the manual. Can't keep asking for info that I should have. What maneuls would you recommend? My Jeeps span from #10021 to #58500.

PS;  It still would be useful to have the Autolite and Delco-Remy #'s for ALL their uses on all the different Willys products. Dreaming?

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I have an excel spread sheet I started with 6v and 12v gens for jeeps from MB to the CJ-6. I will be adding it to the site soon.

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Russ,         

Great work!

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Gary:

I'm on the road for the holidays, so don't have access to my manuals right now.  When I get home (@ the 28th-29th), I will post more numbers.  The ones I mentioned above are just those that I've memorized.

Willys "standard parts lists" are totally useless for electrical information.  Those manuals refer you to the OEM maufacturers manuals.

With sn/10021 I would say get the '45 Maintenance manual.  It has all the early info that later manuals don't.  Willys "popular parts list" covers from '46 thru '51, and has both Autolite and Delco numbers, although a few of the earliest numbers aren't listed.

Having both the '45 and '47 standards parts lists is real handy for seeing what actually changed in the early years.

The '65 CJ2A-CJ6 "service manual", published by Kaiser, lists both Autolite and Delco numbers, but only the most current ones.  Older parts which have been superceeded are not alwyas listed.

An Autolite service manual covering whatever years you're interested in is the most comprehensive for Autolite parts, and same for Delco.

Unfortunately, these is no such thing as "one manual that has it all".

There is a copy of the popular parts list online:

Parts List of Popular Parts

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote F Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Dec. 2005 at 4:34am

Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Gary:

There is a copy of the popular parts list online:

Parts List of Popular Parts

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I went to the link, and there is a nice copy of the index.. Is the rest of the manual online? If so, how do you access it? I hit "NEXT" at the top of the screen and got something totally unrelated..

 

 



Edited by F Bill - 24 Dec. 2005 at 4:35am
If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to:
http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/tech-faq_forum57.html
for a lot of great stuff you need to know!!

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Quote Is the rest of the manual online?


Right there.  Just click each index subject.

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THANKS! BOY DO I FEEL STOOOOPID!
If you haven't checked out the tech FAQ section, go to:
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The page doesn't make it intuitive that those are links, so don't fell too bad.  I remember thinking the same thing when I first found it!

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hi gang-
I pulled the 4 small screws off the rear of the generator. When the small cover came off, there was a lot rust in that cavity. Should oil be in that area?
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Originally posted by jydresto jydresto wrote:

hi gang-
I pulled the 4 small screws off the rear of the generator. When the small cover came off, there was a lot rust in that cavity. Should oil be in that area?

No, just some in the bushing. Do you still have the dust shield around the brushings?
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well, i have a long thin sheet metal belt that covers the holes where the brushes are. I guess that is the dust shield? 
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Yep, that is the dust shield. it sounds like somebody was fairly sloppy about adding oil to the engine.
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There is also a band of thick "paper" or gasket material under the metal band.
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