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    Posted: 09 Apr. 2009 at 1:09pm
Hi All
More pictures tonight. Thanks to those who helped in the retrieval of this great accessory!









If anyone has one of these on there jeep please let me know. I have some questions and I could use some reference photos.

Thanks
Russ


Edited by russnj - 09 Apr. 2009 at 5:47pm

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Harriet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr. 2009 at 2:32pm
Fabulous - what a wonderful accessory!
Wouldn't want to be a bystander on the left though!

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Hey if the economy tanks any further you can always get a job with the highway department now!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Norris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr. 2009 at 5:06pm
 Great picture there. I think Todd Kerzic has one of those on his 2A.
 
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Nice findWink!!
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OMG!!!!!  didin't jpet tell you that i wanted my bucket back?  how will i paint circles on wheels now? oh, right, that wasn't the Home Depot bucket....  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote westforkboyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr. 2009 at 10:46am
Russ
 
Now that is a neat little accessory! I could get some use out of that. My 3-point sickle has a "break away" feature, it dosen't look like that one does so you gotta be very stress very careful not to catch on anything when mowing. It happens quick. I've always thought a sickle would be a great fit with a Jeep.
 
Where did you ever find that. It appears to be all there in great condition. Great to have the literature with it too. Is it 5'? That would be a nice length. Did you get a cutting bar with it? If not I believe you could shorten most 8 footers as long as they fit into the drive pin. Like any machinery they have no conscience and are one of the more dangerous implements going. Fingers and ankles are the most common victims. Be careful and have some fun with it.
 
Edit: Thought I miust add. For some reason dogs like to chase around those sickles, maybe the grass falling or somthing. Keep them far away when doing any mowing.
 
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Edited by westforkboyd - 10 Apr. 2009 at 10:53am
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I think Joe DeYoung has one on a Jeep. I don't know if they have a breakaway but Joe's frame was bent by something the bar hit....NICE find!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lowenuf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr. 2009 at 2:33pm
it has been told to me that the sickle bar attachment wasn't originally for "mowing", rather for cutting hay....and hopefully a field of legume wouldn't have too many obsticles that would bind up the bar :)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe Frazer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr. 2009 at 4:26pm
Great item.... I saw it for sale on ebay with a buy it now and almost pulled the trigger.
Talked myself out of it long enough to let someone else jump in so I wouldn't have to
worry about it! lol
Not a common thing to see - enjoy it!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote westforkboyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr. 2009 at 3:12pm
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You are correct. These sickles were really designed for cutting alfafa, clover, and oat straw. They would get caught on end and side row fences and occasional rocks or thick stands of tough stem weeds. Now days most everyone uses conditioners for cutting hay rather than the old sickles.
 
Most use now is probably for grass and weeds along driveways and trails. This makes it more likely to catch on brush, trees, fences and the like. The break away feature prevents damage to the bar and attatching structure as one "catch" can cause considerable damage to the implement and in this case the Jeep. Just wanted to give a heads up to the possibility.
 
I think it is one of the cooler accessories available also one of the most dangerous so be careful.
 
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WFB is right, DANGEROUS !!!
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rocketeer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr. 2009 at 2:03am
Russ, since you've already seen I'll just post the link for anyone who's interested.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Tech/KandKMower.html

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This is what the spring booster shown on page 8 above looks like:



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Hi Larry
I have seen that info before. Does anybody have two of those helper springs? My K & K did not come with them. I will be scanning the rest of my manual to if it is any clearer than the one from the 3B page.

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That spring booster idea looks like a good way to cure the 'jeep lean' problem that always seems to be discussed. Big smile
 
Russ, that picture looks almost like a homemade copy after looking at the diagram. The one on the diagram hugs the axle a little closer and is shaped differently for the snubber to ride on it.
 
The one in the picture obviously doesn't fit the snubber right, it needs to be flattened more on the end. I bet it wouldn't be a big deal to have a spring shop build you a couple. 
 
 


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Russ,
I have the spring bosters with mine. I can make a print if you'd like. There's a place in Detriot that refurbishes springs that might make you a set. PM me if you want me to make a print and look them up. My mower has a one of the arms welded up that I suspect may not have the original length any more as my bar sits a bit further forward that I think it should. Can you take a measurment off yours for me?
 
I also don't think I have the correct spring on my break-a-way bar. Do you have an original spring for that? If so, can you relay OD, wire size, and free length?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote russnj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 July 2009 at 12:19pm
Hi Joe

Good to see you back! I've been really busy with a project at work I should be able to get some measurements tonight or tomorrow. Then I can start picking your brain too!

Russ

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