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Originally posted by jpet jpet wrote:

Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

...Would the vertical rods be the same as on a 2A, and fasten the same way?...
IDK. Are there two holes in the tub lip about 1-1/8" apart? That would be a start anyway.

  Yes, the two holes are there, and "for all intents and purposes", as Pop would say, they are in the same place. It's difficult to measure to the dash on the 2A because it's so short in height, so I measured from the back (outside) of the rear corner bow pocket to the center of the holes. I measured two CJ2-A's and the CJ3B, and came up with measurements from 39-1/16" to 39-1/4" to the center of the rearmost hole, and 1-1/8" from there to the center of the front hole. I found more variation from 2A to 2A than I did from them to the 3B. I didn't mount a 2A rod and make any measurements, but I can if you would wish. 
  This, I see as another indicator that the 3B, from the dash rearward, is the same as a 3A, and except for the shorter fender boxes of the 3A and 3B, the same as a CJ2-A. 

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Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

...This, I see as another indicator that the 3B, from the dash rearward, is the same as a 3A, and except for the shorter fender boxes of the 3A and 3B, the same as a CJ2-A....
Yes, It look like the only significant difference is that the windshield on a 3B is about 1-1/2" farther forward and tilted back another 3 degrees, i.e. 19 degrees. This way the bottom of the windshield still lines up with the top edge of the dash and the windshield top is still in the same relative position to the tub as a 3A.



I scaled these drawings up in CAD and it all seem to check out mathematically. I thing the vertical rod positions may have changed after '59. Not sure about that yet.
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Explains the trouble I had locating the brackets for the 3B windshield on 'Frankie'....took me three or four sets of holes before I was satisfied......thanks for the info.

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I still have some tweaks to do, but here are some pics of the 3B top I made for Bob3b:







The door frames are actually Bestop frames
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That 3B top looks terrific!
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Love the half top!

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Man, that looks good!
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Thanks guys! This is my 3b.
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Originally posted by jpet jpet wrote:



Hey Jpet, just to be sure: the 3A front bow ht is same as the 31.7" dim on the rear bow? I'm modifying some older repop bows for a "special project"
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Yes they are the same height approximately 32”
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just fyi for those interested in 1/2 cab tops, a few pics of jpet's recent work. black sunbrella. fit and finish is excellent.








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Hey, I know that Jeep. Looking good.
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yep, he's living the maine life now. and does not have to sleep next to that mean ole' rock crawler monster any more.
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Looks good.

Here is a CJ6 top I was finally able to complete:



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That looks fantastic.  Can't find something like that anywhere else I bet.
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I’m currently fitting my 1953 3B with original and a few hand made top BOWS, RODS, and RAILS.

All CJ3 top parts are different than those used on the very early CJ2’s.
The CJ3’s used the following exact same parts that were used on late CJ2’s:

1) # 663444 left front vertical door rod
2) # 663445 right front vertical door rod

3) # 663192 front top center bow
4) # 667997 front top left bow
5) # 667998 front top right bow

6) # 663189 rear top center bow
7) # 667859 rear top left bow
8) # 667860 rear top right bow

All CJ3B parts are identical to model CJ3A excepting:

1) # 671023 front top left rail  CJ3A 
2) # 671024 front top right rail  CJ3A

3) # 681467 front top left rail  CJ3B
4) # 691468 front top right rail  CJ3B
(These rails are located above the doors)

On my factory CJ3B; the rear of the vertical door rod is 30-1/2” from the dash.
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I’ve used your patterns (supported by measurements and model specific modifications) to prototype a (nearly) duplicate 7 piece top out of Harbor Freight tarps, before starting over with my canvas. 

Knowing next to nothing about the differences between all the CJ models, I was frankly very surprised how perfectly your CJ2a top design fits my CJ5. Wind and shrinkage will make much bigger differences I think than most anything else I’ve come across. 

So not to impose a my CJ5 activity on your CJ2a site I’m posting my copying on EarlyCJ5.com : “Make Your Own Soft Top (12/2021) ref MD Juan Tub Build” with full credit to this thread.

My question here involves the reinforcement on the front side curtains which capture the forward bow and the vertical door jamb. The design pattern uses two separate pieces of reinforcement material, but they covered the entire back side of the curtain. Other than capturing the original design Jpet documented, Is there a functional reason for me to use two pieces to create the reinforcing layer? I feel like I could just duplicate the top layer and make a one piece reinforcing layer and get the job done.

There were a few other places the reinforcement pieces covered a significant % of the piece it reinforced. So, same question, do journal think it matters if I just duplicate the top layer rather than make several smaller reinforcing pieces.

Thanks. 

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Apologies. I've been giving my own question a bit more thought and it occurred to me that usinge specifically shaped pieces transfers the load in a very specific way.  Simply attaching two identical layers might not achieve the same load distribution results... unless perhaps additional stitching were added duplicating the original 's stitching were added. 

Anyway, I withdraw the question and will simply duplicate the JPET patterns without major deviation. 
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