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    Posted: 04 Apr. 2021 at 8:49pm
has anyone moved the front axle forward with good success? Any links to a build showing what’s been done?
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Sure. I've done it. 

But just keep in mind that it near always requires steering modifications or even a complete steering redesign. 

What are you looking to do? What are you starting with and what is your end game? If we know a bit more, there are plenty of mod savvy guys here to help. 
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I've a few questions, how far, why?
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I plan on swapping in a mercedes OM616 and from what i have read there is a clearance issue with diff and oil pan. I know i can modify the pan some and i want to move the diff forward as much as possible with out having to get into hydro steering. I would like some options on how to move it and how much it can be moved.My end goal is to run 34” x 9.50’s and have decent articulation when we go to ORV parks playing around. 

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It's up to you, tape measre and welder. Just about anything can be adapted.
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Originally posted by nofender nofender wrote:

Sure. I've done it. 

But just keep in mind that it near always requires steering modifications or even a complete steering redesign. 

What are you looking to do? What are you starting with and what is your end game? If we know a bit more, there are plenty of mod savvy guys here to help. 

Do you have any pics or links to the rock crawler in your signature?
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Originally posted by brushtrooper brushtrooper wrote:

Originally posted by nofender nofender wrote:

Sure. I've done it. 

But just keep in mind that it near always requires steering modifications or even a complete steering redesign. 

What are you looking to do? What are you starting with and what is your end game? If we know a bit more, there are plenty of mod savvy guys here to help. 

Do you have any pics or links to the rock crawler in your signature?

You can see some build stuff here: 

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/east-coast-willys-story.1088451/

I haven't updated it much in recent years. But you can get the idea. 

Here's and old pic - but it's one of my favorites. It's now on King coilovers all the way around. 


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Rear length springs up front will move the front axle forward close to 3" in the stock hanger. It works great for helping to clear a larger tire and giving more clearance on the engine. You will have to build a shackle hanger on the front of the bumper or extend the frame a little bit.

Rear length springs are actually much softer rate than front springs and ride better. The longer spring also allows more axle articulation and vertical travel. I have no problems using a 9-10" travel shock in front.

Both of these are built that way, mine is on the right with a custom 2x4 box frame, the one of the left is a stock based frame.


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Has anyone used a Samurai frame with success? From what I have read it seems there is figment issue on the rear. It looks the front will work good with the CJ2 body. I hate to butcher the original frame doing this mercedes swap. I want to use the OM616 and auto tranny and I think the Zuk divorced tcase setup would work good. Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by Metcalf Metcalf wrote:

Rear length springs up front will move the front axle forward close to 3" in the stock hanger. It works great for helping to clear a larger tire and giving more clearance on the engine. You will have to build a shackle hanger on the front of the bumper or extend the frame a little bit.

Rear length springs are actually much softer rate than front springs and ride better. The longer spring also allows more axle articulation and vertical travel. I have no problems using a 9-10" travel shock in front.

Both of these are built that way, mine is on the right with a custom 2x4 box frame, the one of the left is a stock based 


So you used stock rear springs all the way around? What size tires are on those? Do you have any drawings on the custom frame?
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