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Cinnabear
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Pulled the plugs, its burning really rich. Pulled distributor cap and its been switched over to electronic ignition (Pertronix). At this point it has to be the carb? It idles ok, the timing is dead on, brand new plugs set at .030.......five minutes down the road and its sputtering and dying.
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Cinnabear
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Hey Jeff, the carb looks like its seen better days......Would you recommend a newbie rebuild this Carter, or would be better off sending this one in and getting a fresh rebuilt? I've read a lot of bad things about Solex....is there another alternative for the L-134?
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ndnchf
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Get a hold of scoutpilot. He can rebuild your carb to like new condition, then test it on his jeep and send a video of it running and being tested. he gives a year guarantee. It will be money well spent.
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1948 CJ2A - It goes nowhere fast, but anywhere slow.
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Cinnabear
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Thanks for that....I'll get a hold of him
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athawk11
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I'm still holding out for positive news after you try replacing the condenser. If weak, you'll have bad spark. If bad spark, the plugs won't be able to burn the fuel. Result...bad fuel smell from exhaust.
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Cinnabear
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Big thunderstorm just rolled in, so I think I'm done for the day.
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Oilleaker1
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If it runs fine when first started and will rev up, but after you drive it enough to get it hot, and it begins to not run at high RPM's, but idles fine, I'd think the ignition coil is dropping out. Try another coil. Oilly
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Cinnabear
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I used good gas, 87 octane which is the lowest here......could it be the fuel?
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Oilleaker1
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If you never run out of fuel, and it's not flooding, then I'd still be looking at ignition. A simple test is spray carb clean into the crossover tube when it is malfunctioning. If it's a fuel problem, it will pick up and run. Since I'm old school and run points and condensor, I'm no help with Petronix ignition. John
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Joe DeYoung
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Pull the top off of the carb and check your float level. It sounds like it may be set too low.
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RSR_MK
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I’m wondering if it could be the float has a pin hole and is filling with fuel. Seems to be getting worse over time. Sounds like it could be running rich.
Mike
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Lew Ladwig
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I had a float with a pin hole. The float slowly failed. Got worse with time. Similar issues.
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3A Steve
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Don't know but mine smelled of gas. Actually leaked. Tried to send it to Scout Pilot as a core charge for one of his rebuilt WOs. He convinced me to adjust the float. Sent me videos that were quite useful. Did it. Quit leaking. Works great at all altitudes. You might converse with him.
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Bruce W
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I'm with John, I run points, and know little about the Pertronix set-up, except that I don't trust it (that's normal, isn't it? - to distrust things we don't understand? ). Maybe the problem is inside the distributor. BW
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athawk11
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When the engine starts to run rough/sputter, have you tried shutting it down, then immediately pull the top off the Carter? If so, was the fuel bowl low on fuel, or full? This step will tell if you have a fuel delivery issues downstream of the carburetor, right up to and including the float needle. Do you have the old points, condenser and plate? If so, you could reinstall the old school ignition set-up to troubleshoot past the electronic ignition.
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Oilleaker1
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Black plugs = too much fuel, or weak spark. New coil, new plugs gaped right, timing dead on, means you are down to carburetor problems, or bad petronix. What type of fuel pump are you running? Too high a fuel pressure will over ride the primary needle and seat and cause too much fuel.
Hawkridges's idea of re-installing the point plate, points and condenser would sure help eliminate the petronix as the culprit. Nothing wrong with a petronix . I have one on my MGA. The drawback is if it quits you, you need to carry your old points setup since you won't get petronix parts off the NAPA shelf. Also, if your battery voltage drops below a certain voltage , the petronix quits working. (What's the voltage running and not running?) Make sure your wiring connections on the back of the amp gauge are tight, and the key switch isn't losing continuity. A flicking amp gauge is a sign of a bad connection. You have us wanting to know what is wrong now!
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Long shot here, but is your jeep ‘s gas cap vented?
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Cinnabear
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Alright guys....its been awhile, had a lot going on and the Jeep completely died and ended up in a shop. Long story short, the guy that sold me a "show ready, completely off the frame rebuild" screwed me over pretty good (Don't be a sucker like me and fall for the "I'm in the military, honor...integrity...blah blah blah" crap. BTW, I'm a retired/disabled veteran, so dont hate on me). $2500 later and theres a laundry list......the carb did need rebuilding, but it wasnt the main cause of the issues. The electrical system had been swapped over to 12V....except that it was done poorly and a lot of the 6V stuff was left hooked up....the entire electrical system was fried (Pertronix, coil, alternator, starter) There were several leaks at the transmission and transfer case....and apparently his solution was about 5 gallons of RTV just caked on everywhere, followed by about five coats of paint. The paint job, which he claimed was professionally done, really looked good until it got wet.....now the paint is basically running off everywhere ....which is ok cuz its gettin an OD Green paint job. Anyway, enough whining....I really wanted to stop by and thank all of you wonderful people for taking the time to try and help me sort this out. When I get it back in the morning I'll post some pics, and a proper introduction...and as time and money permits I'll show my progress with my new baby.
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