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44bz 
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 Topic: New trailer, lots of questionsPosted: 26 Dec. 2022 at 10:02pm |
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I'll be bringing home a trailer this week. Not sure what model it is, but looks like a T3C from what I can compare it to. I don't have photos yet to post, but will. It's missing leaf spring brackets, lead springs, and axle, which seems weird but the trailer is free so I said yes.
What can I do for hangers, shackles, and springs? Can I use 2a stuff? I found nos axles on 3bay that I will probably order. The trailer is pretty straight overall, but has rust. My goal is to get it rolling and prepped for a camp trailer to pull behind my 2a. Should be fun.
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46 CJ2a - Buick 225, T90/D18, Warn overdrive, Rancho 2.5" lift, confer shackles, power steering, disc brakes, RandP master cylinder kit, 33x10.50 BFG KM3s
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WellFedHobo
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 9:09am |
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Pictures will help.
If I recall, the leaf springs and shackles are the same as the front ones on a 2A but you will want to find some Bantam spring hangers to get the ride height correct. Someone on here might have a rusted out Bantam that is getting parted out. If the serial number tag is intact, you can find out which style of shackle you'll need. bantamt3c.com has a lot of good info.
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 10:00am |
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I can't recall a source for replacement hangers. But about everything else can be had.
The springs are the same as 2A fronts, as stated. The shackles from a 2A can be used, depending on the year. Some years had bar type shackles. D&L Bensinger has replacement sheet metal bits. Army Jeep Parts has lots of small parts/hardware to help.
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 5:12pm |
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Here is a great source of information….
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 5:32pm |
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Wish you were closer - I have spare axles but shipping would be bad.
These are the fronts: These are the rears (notice the tube welded in for the rear shackle (I think the ones above could be easily modified to make these at their cheap price).
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 6:06pm |
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Thanks for the info and links guys! I remember reading that 2a front springs are the same and maybe Dana 25 wheel hubs are the same?
Here are some photos of my new project. I haven't found any data tags on it, but maybe somebody's social security number     |
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Posted: 27 Dec. 2022 at 6:18pm |
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Very nice, it has the original Fulton 06 coupler. The drawbar casting is the later style.
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Posted: 28 Dec. 2022 at 9:36am |
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wow...looks very decent. The hard stuff (coupler, leg, tailgate) are all nice! The rest of what is missing is easy to source. And yes the D25 hub, sans drum is a direct swap.
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Posted: 01 Jan. 2023 at 8:47pm |
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Got it home!
 Now to collect parts and make it a roller. It will probably need a new floor eventually...
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Posted: 02 Jan. 2023 at 6:47pm |
Looking at this photo makes the driveway look way flatter than it is.
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Posted: 26 Jan. 2023 at 10:42pm |
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So I've picked up a bunch of NOS parts and should be able to start assembling soon. New axle, new spring hangers, new springs, used set of wheel hubs and covers. I'm picking up a set of 5 16" wheels off a Willys wagon this weekend that I found for $30 if you can believe that. Two of them will go under the trailer. Should have a roller very soon!
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Posted: 27 Jan. 2023 at 12:25am |
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FWIW the wagons only came from factory with 15” wheels.
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Posted: 27 Jan. 2023 at 12:51am |
Really? My service manual lists Kelsey Hayes 16x5 wheels as an option for wagons and trucks. Regardless, I haven't seen the wheels in person yet, just photos and the seller says they are 16" off a wagon. I'm not really concerned with the diameter. My trailer doesn't have wheels, these appear to be original steel wheels, and can't beat the price. I'll post photos on Sunday after I pick them up. EDIT - looks like the 16s were available for trucks as I look through manual closer. Either way, it doesn't matter to me since these won't be going on a truck or a wagon
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Posted: 27 Jan. 2023 at 1:29am |
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Here’s one photo I have of the wheels:
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Posted: 27 Jan. 2023 at 10:38am |
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Looks like pre-1955 Kelsey Hayes to me. (Non creased disks)
Can’t see any tire size marking …So are they 15 of 16” ? Either way you can’t beat that price !
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Posted: 29 Jan. 2023 at 5:35pm |
Got them home. They are 16s. A matching set of four with a fifth wheel that's Ford with the center cut out to clear a Jeep hub. The guy I got them from says they were mounted to his wagon, which he sold 30 years ago or something. They should work just fine for getting this trailer back in service. |
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Posted: 29 Jan. 2023 at 6:44pm |
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Also going to need new tires. Looking at these, any thoughts? It's a great price, but I don't know anything about the seller.
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Posted: 29 Jan. 2023 at 7:55pm |
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That’s a GREAT price for 600x16 NDT’s.
Perfect original look for a military T3. Your photos look to show a civilian T3C (has tailgate), Bantam used regular highway tread on those. Use what you desire.
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