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    Posted: 01 Apr. 2011 at 5:38pm
20 minutes before the end of work I found a Bantam on craigslist.  So I took the drive over and checked it out.  Seems like a nice find.  I already have a '47, but it's in rough shape and I figured it would be easier to restore this puppy instead.

I suspect it's an early civilian, with some combat wheels slapped on.  Along with a title comes the paperwork from the original owner that supposedly bought it from the government.  If only someone didn't extend the front.  Whatcha guys think?

Some interesting things I've spotted.

-Spring hangers have holes in em.
-Tag is mounted really high up (have to clean it up to get a serial number).
-Combat wheels
-V frame support
-Round drainhole patch in tub.
-U-style shackles











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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote F Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr. 2011 at 5:44pm
definitely a civilian trailer...even has the clipped serial number tag...combats were supplied on the early ones so thay may be original..nice start!
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Hmmm, interesting. The combat rims, drawbar gussets, and the number stamped in the frame indicate early, but the taillight panels indicate late. Maybe a transition point?
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Not sure, it's definitely a weird one.  I'll update tomorrow when I find its serial.  What's the best way to reveal the tags number without erasing the black background from it?
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Looks like a good project.
The serial plate looks way to high though.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Divinitous Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr. 2011 at 9:49pm
Originally posted by Night0wl Night0wl wrote:

Looks like a good project.
The serial plate looks way to high though.
 


I agree, I'm still a little skeptical.  However I did find this


http://bantamt3c.com/images/hubbard/Pages/Bantam3.html
Originally posted by Bantamt3c.com Bantamt3c.com wrote:

Data plate changes from 3"x3" to 1"x3". Early examples have the data plate right under the front top rail. Later models have the data plate mounted several inches lower.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 48cj2a Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Apr. 2011 at 11:26pm
I'm guessing transition model too. This would be a good one to get some detailed photos and query the database.
 
Let me know the serial number if you can make it out. Take a magnifying glass with if possible. Would also like to know if there is a ACM number.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ndrtkr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Apr. 2011 at 3:50am
Originally posted by Divinitous Divinitous wrote:

What's the best way to reveal the tags number without erasing the black background from it?
 take a little white chalk & rub into the plate where the #'s are.  It will sink into the recesses of the #.  Then rub the area with your finger to remove chalk from the high spot, leaving the chalk visible in the #'rd area.
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Serial 2521
Havent gotten an ACM # yet.

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That is where my serial tag was - mine is SN 2524 - with combat rims and sheet metal supports.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Night0wl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Apr. 2011 at 10:41pm
Art,
It looks like all of the early Bantams have the plate mounted a few inches lower then the one in these examples.  Then when manufacturing hits the 2000 serial number range they move the plate all the way up to under the top rail.  Then after that some where in the 3000 range they change and go back to mounting the plate lower again.
Ryan, Dave,
I believe your trailers to be good examples of this.  If you look at the trailers on Art's page you will see that the realy early trailers did not have the plates directly below the rail but indead a few inches below that area, then a while later comes your examples, and then back again to the original spot.
No doubt something was going on during this transition.  This is good research and data info for the Bantam T3C page.
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I'm away at a class until next weekend so would like some high resolution pictures in a week or so and I'll update the database then.
Great Find!!!
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Originally posted by 48cj2a 48cj2a wrote:

I'm away at a class until next weekend so would like some high resolution pictures in a week or so and I'll update the database then.
Great Find!!!


Not a problem.  I travel next week but will get some pics to you around next weekend.
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