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Originally posted by Scratch Scratch wrote:

Holy crap!  Those HMV plates are 5 bucks!
Problem solved!


You can thank the MVPA and a great guy by the name of Jeff Rowsam for that, back in about 2010 the Wisconsin DMV decided military vehicles did not belong on the road and started revoking titles, Jeff with the help of the MVPA petitioned the state legislature and after about 2 years were able to get the statute reversed. Along with that they also added to the new legislation that if you had an MV titled in Wisconsin you could have 2 parts vehicles stored on your property, and also created the MV license plate…

So the people who say the MVPA does nothing for them are full of $hit, this is why it pays to support your hobby, Wisconsin was the first state to go after the MV hobby, the hard work by Mr Rowsam and the MVPA set the standard for the rest of the US and many other states who chose the Anti-MV band wagon also were reversed.

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So it says this about HMV plates:

  • Vehicles with HMV license plates cannot be used for regular transportation.
  • Historic military vehicle registration allows operation to and from special occasions, such as parades, display events, club activities, exhibitions and tours.
  • Operation is also allowed for occasional personal use as well as testing, maintenance and storage purposes.
That means it would be legal to drive to Dairy Queen a few times a month to keep the drivetrain lubed and make sure it runs fine right?
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I'm not a lawyer (thank God!), but I don't think the law defines "occasional personal use", and unless your insurance company does, I don't think a LEO could either.
So long as you have a sleep period every day (not behind the wheel) I'd bet you're ok to go wherever whenever you want.
Worst case: do a lot of "maintenance" and "testing" (like kicking the tires). No lie.

Call your DMV and ask them what "occasional personal use" means.

Good luck with that!
(Your tax dollars at work)

Oh yeah, probably not a good idea to put a tracking device on your jeep.
Big brother is watching.... LOL not to see how much you drive, but to find out how much DQ you consume.


Edited by Ron D - 01 Mar. 2023 at 10:17pm
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Originally posted by Ron D Ron D wrote:

Originally posted by jhg jhg wrote:

Why not "age" the state plates? 

You could very well change the feel of them to something that is very fitting, but, still legal.


Yup. I heard that "fake patina" is all the rage in some vintage car circles.

Excuse me ---- "faux patina".


Yep.  While we (and other old-car guys) hope to find rust-free panels, the rat-rod guys are buying fiberglass panels and painting them to look like rust. Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lee MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar. 2023 at 10:51pm
Originally posted by Scratch Scratch wrote:

[COLOR=#222222" face="Sans-Regular, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]<span style="caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: 0.41999998688697815px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba0, 0, 0, 0; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;]So it says this about HMV plates:</span>[/COLOR]
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<ul style="-sizing: -; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb34, 34, 34; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: Sans-Regular, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: 0.41999998688697815px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba0, 0, 0, 0; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style="-sizing: -;">Vehicles with HMV license plates cannot be used for regular transportation.
<ul style="-sizing: -; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: rgb34, 34, 34; caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: Sans-Regular, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: 0.41999998688697815px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba0, 0, 0, 0; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style="-sizing: -;">Historic military vehicle registration allows operation to and from special occasions, such as parades, display events, club activities, exhibitions and tours.<li style="-sizing: -;">Operation is also allowed for occasional personal use as well as testing, maintenance and storage purposes.
[COLOR=#222222" face="Sans-Regular, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif]<span style="caret-color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: 0.41999998688697815px; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba0, 0, 0, 0; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;]That means it would be legal to drive to Dairy Queen a few times a month to keep the drivetrain lubed and make sure it runs fine right?</span>[/COLOR]



Pretty sure your regular collector plates have the exact same restriction, as long as you’re not using it for a commuter vehicle nobody will,ever question its use more than likely.

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Curious.
"Restriction"? Could it be government language shenanigans?

What's a "commuter vehicle"?
Does the law define it?
I sure hope not.

I suppose it could mean "back and forth to work every day".

Could it also mean "back and forth to get geezer coffee and donuts with my friends every day"?

Asking for the retired folks.





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Originally posted by Scratch Scratch wrote:

So it says this about HMV plates:

  • Vehicles with HMV license plates cannot be used for regular transportation.
  • Historic military vehicle registration allows operation to and from special occasions, such as parades, display events, club activities, exhibitions and tours.
  • Operation is also allowed for occasional personal use as well as testing, maintenance and storage purposes.
That means it would be legal to drive to Dairy Queen a few times a month to keep the drivetrain lubed and make sure it runs fine right?

I don't see why not...."allows operation to and from special occasions, such as .......club activities...." pretty well covers going to DQ for a Jeep club meeting I would think. (not your fault nobody else came, right) Wink

Bottom line is they probably really don't care as long as they get your registration fee anyway.



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I wouldn't lie to a LEO (they can smell it).
And wouldn't encourage anybody to do so.

Good luck!


Edited by Ron D - 01 Mar. 2023 at 11:54pm
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[QUOTE=Ron D]
Curious.
"Restriction"? Could it be government language shenanigans?

What's a "commuter vehicle"?
Does the law define it?
I sure hope not.

I suppose it could mean "back and forth to work every day".

Could it also mean "back and forth to get geezer coffee and donuts with my friends every day"?

Asking for the retired folks.





It means you cannot use it to drive TO and FROM your place of employment. I have collector plates on several Jeeps, I drive them wherever I want to, whenever I want to including coffee with my retired friends, and coffee with friends is also a car show if an officer of the law asks and that’s never happened yet… If I have a chat on the side of the road, it’s usually because I’ve been pulled over because my right taillight is out, it’s happened several times over the years and twice in one night once that’s another story

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I run regular Kansas truck plates on "Ol' Red" because I do not want any restrictions placed on my use of my jeep. I want to drive her anytime, any place, any where that a regular truck could go. No, I'm not headed to a "car show", I'm going to the hardware store and I don't want some cop questioning my use of my vehicle. Yes, I pay more in registration fees each year than the owner of a vehicle displaying antique plates. Antique plates have restrictions on the vehicle use...sure, they aren't enforced well but they could be.

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One time fee of like $75 for vintage plate registration here in Oregon.
  I like that.
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In Wisconsin at least, collector plates have very few restrictions. You can drive them anywhere, and anytime (except for January) these are the biggest ones:

  • Vehicles that have alterations to the body from the original vehicle do not qualify for Collector license plates. 
  • Except for the four former military vehicles listed above, truck type vehicles with Collector plates cannot haul materials weighing more than 500 pounds, not including the weight of a camper, lid, or cap that is mounted on the truck, the weight of a trailer or load drawn by the truck.
  • Vehicles cannot be used for commercial purposes or operated for hire.
  • Collector license plates are not valid to operate during the month of January.

I wish I would have known about the $5.00 HMV plates before I spent the $170.00 on collector plates for my GPW. On the plus side, I called them today and they said I can transfer those collector plates to another jeep that I need to get plates for, so I guess it's not that bad.  I'll now have 3 sets of collector plates, and 1 set of HMV plates! 


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Here in Ohio there’s a unique paragraph in our Historical licensing for military built vehicles (not tributes, CJ’s painted OD).
First register for a Ohio Historical plate which you carry in the vehicle, then you can paint the military registration number on the vehicle which in my mind would be just like the yellow unit ID painted on the front bumper and rear bumperets.
Check as other states may offer this…
Notwithstanding section 4503.21 of the Revised Code, the owner of a historical motor vehicle that was manufactured for military purposes and that is registered under this section may display the assigned registration number of the vehicle by painting the number on the front and rear of the vehicle. The number shall be painted, in accordance with the size and style specifications established for numerals and letters shown on license plates in section 4503.22 of the Revised Code, in a color that contrasts clearly with the color of the vehicle, and shall be legible and visible at all times. Upon application for registration under this section and payment of the license fee prescribed in division (B) of this section, the owner of such a historical motor vehicle shall be issued a historical vehicle license plate. The registration certificate and the license plate shall be kept in the vehicle at all times the vehicle is operated on the public roads and highways in this state. 
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Originally posted by dasvis dasvis wrote:

One time fee of like $75 for vintage plate registration here in Oregon.
  I like that.
It was $101 for my '47 plate today.


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Originally posted by otto otto wrote:

Originally posted by dasvis dasvis wrote:

One time fee of like $75 for vintage plate registration here in Oregon.
  I like that.
It was $101 for my '47 plate today.


you got "Rob"dLOL


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Originally posted by otto otto wrote:

Originally posted by dasvis dasvis wrote:

One time fee of like $75 for vintage plate registration here in Oregon.
  I like that.
It was $101 for my '47 plate today.


$75~101, can't beat that with a stick... a ONE TIME fee!
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Originally posted by muley muley wrote:

Originally posted by otto otto wrote:

Originally posted by dasvis dasvis wrote:

One time fee of like $75 for vintage plate registration here in Oregon.
  I like that.
It was $101 for my '47 plate today.


you got "Rob"dLOL
Yup, $101 and three hours of my life. But like Dasvis says, a one time fee! I had the choice of $186 for two years or $101 for the rest of my ownership. Seemed like a no-thinker!
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