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    Posted: 12 June 2007 at 5:40am
CJ2A #23353 came to me from its original owner in North California. She had spent at least the past 37 years in a garage with a hard top. The family had brush painted the exterior of the tub with a different shade of green but had left the underside, engine compartment and interior alone. The wheels were also original paint and have been discussed in this forum under 'Autumn Yellow'.
I used several sheet metal parts as samples and had the local PPG Paint Dealer match the green. We also used the Ditzler codes. I think it is a perfect match to what I had. I have given this formula to several other owners and they have also had great success.
I agree that these formulas should be shared with others to maintain the 'original' look during the restoration process. I hope others will provide their formulas of their original colors too.
I believe this green is a correct match to the original shade of Pasture Green on 23353.
PPG Brand Delstar DAR Acrylic Enamel Gallon Formula
DMR    TONER    UNIT
            410        104
            400        180
            490        168
            441        196
            487        2616
            495        80
            499        200
Before....
After...
Hope this will help others as well.
 
 


Edited by Howard - 12 June 2007 at 9:51am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jus*Jack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:20am
Are you saying that the interior, as in your first pic, is the original color? (And judging from the fact that such things as the windshield latches are NOT painted would lead me to believe the same.)

If so, then are you also saying that the new exterior color, as you've painted it in the third and fourth pics are the _same_ color? If that's the case, then it would certainly indicate the same sort of discrepancy that Sean had mentioned in a posting with a blue wrench...lighting. On my screen, the interior shot is a much lighter, and gray-er color than in the latter two.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Howard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:34am
Hi Jack...Yes...Sean is absolutely correct about this color difference issue. Photos are hard to use for any accuracy. Especially when you use a flash as in this first picture. 
I have many pictures supporting the original finishes on various small parts, and the Pasture green. I used the inside of the grill, the inside of the headlight rings and the underside of the tool box lid for samples. No worries...Here is another of original color picture for example.
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Edited by Howard - 12 June 2007 at 9:53am
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I figured I would throw this out here. I'm using PPG DBC two stage paint so Howard's paint mix formula didn't work for me. But the NAPA in town had the original Willys Paint chips. After getting some close matches we came to a code that matches darn near exact (to the chip). The code is a Nissan color called Tank Green. NIS D12. As I'm color-blind, it looked pretty darn good to me.
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Color Blind???....Nissan?????????
It's a good thing your Napa has the "chips".
  I'm still trying to think of a Nissan that I've seen that was "pasture green"..LOL Confused
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No no! It's a TANK that you should be looking for Gary! (and I was wondering about that "color blind" thing, too. Maybe that's what we should ALL suffer from! )
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I had my best friend (not color blind) there to help and the Nissan color was the closest match we could find. The color is called "Tank Green". And I believe it was available for one or two years on the 240SX.

The benefit to me of using a pre-established color code is the ability to go to any NAPA give them the code and get paint in an hour if I needed to do repairs.

The benefit of using the two stage paint is it's way more durable and easy to repair than single stage. I've done the single stage route before. Never again...

Well, I would be tempted to try the Imron line, but special equipment is needed to spray it and color matches are difficult to do with it.


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has anyone used the Beachwood pasture green?  by the way i think, if they have the autumn yellow dead on, shouldnt the pasture green be the same way?  if so, is it the paint type that sways people from using it?  just not durable enough, not the right shade?  thoughts?
 
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Eric,
My first comment to purchasing Pasture Green from Beachwood is the cost. You would need a full Gallon of paint of the Green...and that is close to do all the sheet stock on a CJ...Check the shipping costs as this much paint is ususally considered hazardous material. Let us know what you find in hard numbers, please.
For the wheels...a quart does the job and is usually not subject to the same shipping fees due to small volume. This is the primary reason I went the direction I did in having a local company make my green paint.
I would be willing to bet that Beachwoods Green is right on too, however.
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is that why they have call for price on the paint?!  must be a little expensive.  i will call them sometime next week and let you know what they are asking.  sounds like the quart is the way to go.  what kind of primer did you use underneath of it?
 
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Paint prices fluctuate. And it is expensive. But, you get what you pay for wrt paint. It's one area I will never skimp on from now on.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote F Bill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct. 2010 at 9:50am
Here's a 1947 Dupont paint chip next to the original green on my 46.
Here's a  sample of modern paint sprayed on an envelope to check match..

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Here's the information on the paint I used:

BASF brand R-M Diamont, Pasture Green 243736
Listed under 1946 AMC colors. LOL

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