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MooCow
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Posted: 20 Apr. 2016 at 4:18am |
I am building a small trailer for the willys. I want to put super Traxion tires on like my jeep. My question is will the bias ply super Traxion tires hold up to 80mph being pulled behind my truck occasionally? Or should I just get some AT radials and not worry about it? Thoughts?
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Lee MN
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Radials are the only way to go in my opinion and experience, better wear, run cooler as well.
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80mph is NOT where you want to find out, lol... bias ply on a trailer for the jeep to tow?, no problem. To tow the jeep with?
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Oilleaker1
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They make radial trailer tires designed for the job. Tire covers to keep the sun off them during storage too. Super traxions are good Jeep tires, but I'd never use them on a trailer. My opinion. John
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MooCow
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Let me be more clear, this will be a 500 pound trailer to tow behind the jeep. My trailer to tow the jeep has radials but is not long enough for the jeep and the small jeep trailer so I would need to pull it behind my jeep trailer if I wanted to take both with me. So, I would be towing 2 trailers at highway speeds. My gut tells me to use radials, I just wanted them to match the jeep. Hope this helps!
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Mark W.
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What state is that legal?
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Chug A Lug
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RICKG
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It's legal here in Idaho as long as the combined rig does not exceed a certain length.
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Legal here in Utah as long as you are not longer than 65'.
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RICKG
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Thx Stan.. I couldn't remember but 65ft sounds right.
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Legal at 80......doubtful.
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smfulle
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I imagine there are not that many roads in most states that it is legal to drive any vehicle 80. Only two that I can think of here in Utah. Chunks of I-70 and I-15 on some of the most lonely stretches of interstate anywhere. Found this pdf that seems to have laws listed for all states. Not sure of it's source and accuracy though. It looks like most states have a 65mph limit for towing. It also shows that Idaho has a 75' combined vehicle length. Who knew? |
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67charger
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I thought most trailer tires are bias ply, because they dont twist as much as a radial. Thats what i have on my car trailer.
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Oilleaker1
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Now you know why I never bought a military Jeep trailer. You need a 20 foot car trailer to load the Jeep and trailer. Probably could squeak one on a 18, but your tongue weight would be much. John
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Rus Curtis
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I looked into this also and I believe it's called Triple Towing. It can be done in some states but is illegal in others. I'm in one of the states that don't allow it so I gave up. Here's some helpful info with additional links (notice the info on trailer brakes too): |
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MooCow
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My jeep trailer is 12' with electric brakes and my little trailer would only b4 5' long. I personally feel comfortable driving it at 75mph. My main question was if you guys thought the super Traxion would be fine at 75mph. I have pretty much decided to go with grabber a/t radials for a bit of an off road look and speed rated to 118mph. If I could pull both trailers all the way to colorado for the fall color tour at 118 mph I could cut down the trip from 11 hours to around 7!
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Mark W.
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Yea not in Oregon. I am told if its licensed in a state that allows it you can get away with passing through the state but expect interest from the cops.
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Chug A Lug
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Joe Friday
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I've towed from Denver to Moab using a 95 Grand Cherokee to tow a 2002 TJ on an 18 foot trailer with a a custom trailer twice the weight of an M100 behind that. It towed in a stable fashion but brakes were iffy and high winds and passing trucks made things a little exciting.
I wouldn't do it again. Towing something the size of an M100 at 75 is not a good idea even with radials. If you do it, make sure the radials have an 'overlay' or 'cap ply' between the top belt and the tread. The speed ratings on tires are determined on a machine in a laboratory under very specific load and inflations. Trailer tires are specifically designed with lower cornering power and less tread depth. It's legal to use passenger radials, but the load has to be de-rated when used on SUV. light truck, or trailers.
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sandusky
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I used to tow at higher speeds,but not anymore my limit is 65 to 70mph.I stay in the Slow lane. All it takes is one "How the Heck did That Happen" and The Safety of others along with yourself as well as your toy are shot to heck. Besides my Ferd Egoboost prefers a less taxing pace.
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