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    Posted: 18 Jan. 2023 at 3:02pm
have found a Saginaw box with serial #5671818 and can not find any info about that particular box .  Would be grateful for any info.  Have a 1947 2a with the ross box


 
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 I doubt that is a serial number. It might be a part number but is probably just a casting number for the housing. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan. 2023 at 6:13pm
show a photo of the box. Is it a manual or power? Does it have 3 or 4 mounting bolt holes? How many turns lock to lock?

I recommend for manual steering  a 525 model box. It has three mounting holes and has 6.25 turns lock to lock. Borgenson makes a great combo U joint vibration dampened.

If you look through pages  about 93 in my project thread you can see what I did.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rocnroll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan. 2023 at 7:11pm
There is plenty of online Saginaw information....you should be able to visibly iidentify it just by Googling it simply as Saginaw steering box id.


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Jeep CJ’s used manual box #5679142 from 1972 AMC CJ through till the end of CJ’s in 1986.
So your 5671818 would be a pre 1972 box for ???


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IF the "serial number" 5671818 is actually a casting number, or an assembly number, it just might be a part number 5679142.

That is my SWAG on what the OP actually has.
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Yes I fully agree these are only the blank casting numbers to be found on the saginaw steering boxes.
Here is a picture of my genuine oem nos Jeep manual box which is a direct fit for all 1972-1986 CJ’s.


I am guessing that the 5671818 was from a Chevy used in the late 1960’s




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Thanks guys,  Iwill need to get back at the frame I found this on and take some pictures after cleaning it up a little to get a better idea about the box.   


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Have pix but can't upload b/c I can't convert to the proper file -- tried uploading a word doc loaded with pix to no avail.
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Finally figured out how to upload the pics:









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From the pics one can clearly see it to be a typical manual box by the standard Saginaw configuration of 3 mounting bolts. 
We cannot see the length of the input shaft. 
On CJ’s (not all Jeeps) the input spud shaft was attached to an intermediate steering shaft via a bellcoupler fitting.
I’m sure some shafts on GM’s were very long.
The casting number previously provided suggests 1960’s era.
It has a drop pitman arm which was common to many GM applications. 
Myself I am not familiar with all Saginaw products. Only those used on 1970’s Jeeps to 1985 CJ.
The real issue then is the ratio or how many turns from lock to lock.
Jeep CJ was a slow powerful 24/1 ratio (count 6-1/2 turns lock to lock).




Edited by oldtime - 30 Jan. 2023 at 3:02pm
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Thanks for the reply.  It is very similar to the pic you posted earlier except the for the oil fill plug on top of the pic I sent as opposed to yours
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