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    Posted: 04 Jan. 2011 at 9:08am
Good morning everyone.
 
Has anyone had any experience with purchasing a repro tool compartment?
I assume they are made by MD Juan and my concern is how they fit original tubs.
 
Mine is a basket case and after sittng and studying and trying to figure out how to go about fixing it.... well, I have decided for the aggravation and time VS the money for a new one I think I want a new one.
They come with the "Jeep" logo on the front and a lit attached.
 
Any comments?......Ideas?
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote buckshot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan. 2011 at 9:14am
I used Classic Enterprises panels to rebuild mine. I was able to save the original lid.
 
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Originally posted by buckshot buckshot wrote:

I used Classic Enterprises panels to rebuild mine. I was able to save the original lid.
 
Good luck!
 
If I could get the top of the tool compartment I would give it a go with a rebuild but my top is BADLY pitted and rusted. I have been struggling with how to repair the top but I am coming up with a blank. If you get a top (if it were available) and the 2 sides that Classic has then you have the whole box.
 
I have a couple of donor Jeeps but those tool compartments are just as bad.
Jeeps in Mississipi have had a hard life as a rule.
 
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Longhunter,

I purchased the tool box for my resto from Walcks.  If you don't expect it to fit right in, then you will be somewhat happy with it. In other words be ready to modify it a bit.  I guess the most major mod to it, for me was along the side...it did not fit square, so I flattened the lip and the re-bent it.  And in fitting the seat and pivots (before I got crazy with the welder) I found the only way to get the seat to work and lay against the wheelhouse, was to space the pivots forward 3/16.  (Not too hoaky..I made some spacers with the same profile as the pivots).  In all, still better than dealing with the rusty one!
But keep in mind....my tub went under extreme reconstructive surgery and I think the side had pulled in at some point thus affecting the fit.
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Call Walcks and see if he has a used top.  Usually it is the floor under the box (the tool box has no bottom) and the front panel where it hits the floor that rusts out.
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Try calling Willy overland. They say they bought out Jeep Acres in IND. They may be able to get you a used original. PH#1-888-265-JEEP
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I gave up and decided to install a passenger side fuel tank at some later date and left out the box.  I used M38 seats and modified a drivers seat to fit the passenger side and fit over future extra tank.....and some day I want to put MB/GPW type tool/storage boxes in the rear fender wells. 
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I checked with Walcks a couple of months back and he did not have.  The MD Juan suppliers have to place a separate order and wait on the Conex, unless???
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Originally posted by JIMO JIMO wrote:

Longhunter,

I purchased the tool box for my resto from Walcks.  If you don't expect it to fit right in, then you will be somewhat happy with it. In other words be ready to modify it a bit.  I guess the most major mod to it, for me was along the side...it did not fit square, so I flattened the lip and the re-bent it.  And in fitting the seat and pivots (before I got crazy with the welder) I found the only way to get the seat to work and lay against the wheelhouse, was to space the pivots forward 3/16.  (Not too hoaky..I made some spacers with the same profile as the pivots).  In all, still better than dealing with the rusty one!
But keep in mind....my tub went under extreme reconstructive surgery and I think the side had pulled in at some point thus affecting the fit.
Hope that helps
 
Sounds like the repro is going to be the way to go for me.
My original would be a pain to rebuild and just a few mods to the repro should give me a nice functional tool compartment.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That gives me a heads up to the repro tool compartment's problems.
 
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OK, here is an update of my experience with a repro tool compartment.
This repro that I received is very poorly made, cheesy, cheap looking and doesn't even begin to fit properly. The front panel is about 1" short of getting to the tranny hump. The lid fits very poorly and the latch mechanism doesn't work. The construction of the lid isn't even close to an original and the opening is larger so I can not put my original lid on this repro compartment. I am in for MAJOR work to make it fit but I am commited now and will make it work.
 
Just a word of caution for anyone else considering buying one.
 
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i received a new MDJuan toolbox yesterday from another page member, along with receiving a complete tub to try and rob the toolbox from, and you are correct, the repro is junk, the under channels are incorrect, and the lid lip on the box is wrong.....did i mention flimsy......
 
start looking for parts tubs :)
 
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Maybe metalshaper Brian could help with some ideas. Are you here Brian? "HELP HELP"

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And so we understand my previous comment...

the repro box was given to me, i did not have to pay for it.....
 
having said that, i care not to use the box on my restoration as a whole unit, i would have no problems cutting out the appropriate panels (front Jeep logo) and using the side panels...
 
but after sitting the box in my tub, it would take a lot to make the unit work..
 
now, it may be just fine if someone was after a toolbox replacement, and not concerned with asthetics...
 
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Just noticed this link, I am here to offer up some advice if anybody needs it .  When doing restoration projects for customers I always use the original toolbox and various parts of it.  A long time ago I gave up with overseas parts, md juan, and especially Omix-ada, who is ruining and american made jeep with all the garbage they sell.  There is no easy way to make a quality jeep restoration..... time and patience are needed in heavy doses to make things right.  I am here to help members or anyone else who needs panels, or various parts of their project worked on.  I have been rebuilding original tubs, and parts for years but the supplies of good core tubs, fenders, etc... is getting very low these days.
 
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Longhunter,

I hope I did not steer you wrong!  I guess I ended up lucky or somethings in my tub ended up different and in my favor.  As for the top..I guess I never compared (probably cause there was not much left of mine).  I can post a pic of mine if you like.

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