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m38mike 
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 Posted: 29 Apr. 2023 at 6:34am |
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Ask your builder what it would cost to go up 2 more feet. You will not regret having the extra height. Besides insuring that you will be able to go with overhead cables on your lift, It will give you the ability to make storage shelves a bit taller, or if you make a closed room at one end you may have space above the ceiling for a storage area. I did that for the two rooms I built into my shop and I'm really glad I did.
And that could also give you the opportunity to put some windows in the wall above the doors. Always good to have daylight coming into the shop. I've got a 2-level roof on my shop. In the 2 foot wall between roof lines I had my builder add some one foot tall by 5 foot wide fixed glass windows just to let in some light up high. Glad I did. Now the ceiling isn't as dark as it would have been without the windows. You can increase your opportunities by just adding a little bit of height like Jeff J did.
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Oilleaker1
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Posted: 29 Apr. 2023 at 7:47am |
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With Morton buildings each foot of wall height over so many feet adds allot to the cost. When I poured the frost walls, I added another foot to the cement which helped with cost and height. It also let you spray out the floors for cleaning without getting the wood wet. In cold climates, it pays to insulate the inside of the frost walls with 4 x 8 sheets of foam insulation. If pouring a pad, you can lay the sheets flat around the perimeter. Then pour over them. The egress of cold from the outside is noticeable. I also ran all electrical wiring in surface mounted conduit. No wiring in the walls or above the ceiling. Then 15 inches of blown in insulation above the ceiling. It makes my shop warmer than my home. The electricians wanted to run wiring above the ceiling. I said you aren't allowed to step foot there. Guys that spray foam the interior right on the tin forget about the possibility of have to replace the tin. It's a mess to work with.
I worry allot about the vehicle falling off the hoist. I made extra wheel chocks for the four post and pay attention when raising and lowering. On a two post the position of the folding arms and pads always has me nervous. pluses and minuses to both as mentioned. I really like the drip pans and use them always. I have six of them. They don't call me Oilleaker for nothing!
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Jeff J
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Posted: 29 Apr. 2023 at 9:09pm |
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Don’t get me wrong. Windows are nice but, windows or not, I have always turned on the same number of lights to work so giving up windows in favor of 14’ side walls was a no brainer for me.
I don’t always turn on the lights when I have the 40 foot door open but I don’t like to leave it open. Birds love big buildings and I don’t want them in my shop.
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bight
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Posted: 29 Apr. 2023 at 10:18pm |
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my front wall will be 14' 6". back is 9' 6". that calculates to just over 12' where the lift goes.
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Jeff J
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Posted: 30 Apr. 2023 at 10:27am |
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That should work well for you. These days I often think I should have bought a lift before I retired.
Don’t skimp on lighting. I started with 2 metal halide lights that I picked up for $25 each. Got tired of the warm up period and the constant buzzing so I converted those to LED which ended up providing more and better quality light. I added 4 LED high bay fixtures as funds allowed. I have worked in a lot of different shops and hangars around the world. Mine is the first one I have worked where I don’t feel like I am in a cave. When I computed the power consumption to see how many switches I should install I discovered all of that LED lighting draws about the same amps as a single 60w incandescent bulb.
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bight
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Posted: 02 May 2023 at 4:45pm |
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going to increase my back wall height from 9'6" to 10' even. that should provide enough clearance where the lift will sit.
had mondo rainstorm. like 5 inches overnight. basement flooded. bad. but the foundation prep work on the garage is solid. no damage. and the rain will help compact prior to concrete.
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bight
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 11:06am |
one step at a time. going to have 6 inches of 4000 psi concrete. according to lift mfg. that'll do the job.
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 11:36am |
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looking good! Going to do anything like in floor heat, drains, pull points or anything in the floor?
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 1:44pm |
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no. all potentially important but add to cost. have already reached max budget. no water systems in garage.
will be for storage, not regular, daily driver use. so floor drains and contouring the floor so drains work would add to cost and would not be significantly needed. not a heavy use work space. i know, i know, radiant floor heat is wonderful. but out of my price range at this point. i will not be spending extended time in garage in the cold. will get a portable propane heater if needed. slab will be high and should not have runoff or flooding issues. simple wall outlets will be the electric. again, cost is an issue. electrical work is very expensive these days and i am not 100% confident in my own skills. plus i want a licensed electrical contractor. i also know that configurations and use will change and trying to get power in the floor exactly where i need it will be difficult. have done without in the past, so i figure i can deal with wall outlets in future. thanks for the input. all good questions to consider.
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 2:16pm |
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No problem, believe me… I understand what a budget is. My rotisserie has 12” wooden wheels cause I have to roll it around on a dirt floor.
(Feel free to ship me any leftover concrete you have)
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 2:38pm |
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Jealous of you guys with a dedicated shop.
My workspace is a two car garage shared with a 1964 Thunderbird convertible.
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bight
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Posted: 07 May 2023 at 5:41pm |
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regarding pull points, i have access to plenty of these which i can drill holes and place wherever needed then remove and put a plastic cap over hole. 5-10,000 lb. min. breaking strength depending upon which ones i use. i also could install remove-able swivel bolts which are very nice also. but i do not foresee a great need.
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m38mike
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Posted: 08 May 2023 at 3:40am |
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6" of 4000 psi concrete? Yup, you should be able to hold any lift that will fit under your roof with no problems. Are you going up with a wood frame or steel frame? Looking good. I love seeing new construction going on.
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Posted: 08 May 2023 at 11:19am |
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2x6 wood, metal clad, metal roof industrial, Scandinavian design look.
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Posted: 09 May 2023 at 7:55am |
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When I built my shop I put 1/2” steel plates with rebar welded to the underside. I drilled and tapped 1/2” holes using a template so all would receive the same top mounted apparatus. I taped a piece of 1/2” foam to the underside and plugged the holes so concrete couldn’t get in. After curingcut the tape and bolts have a little bit more too underneath so they don’t bottom out. I’ve attached a winch and other stuff to these plus nothing to trip over.
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bight
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Posted: 25 May 2023 at 8:59am |
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more progress. 6 inches of 4000 psi concrete.
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Posted: 25 May 2023 at 9:23am |
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Don’t tell anyone, but I may come steal that concrete slab for my shop.
I do have your address…
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Posted: 25 May 2023 at 11:41am |
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welcome to try
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