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Jeff_Davis 
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 Topic: Source for Engine Stay Cable???Posted: 02 Nov. 2019 at 2:02pm |
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Hi
I would like to get an engine stay cable for my '47 CJ2A. The parts manual lists it as 640348. Also, I suspect a '51-52 M38 stay cable would (same engine/bellhousing/trans) work, but can somebody confirm that? I can't find a source for the CJ version... RFJP has the MB version (A5125), but I understand that is too short due to the T-84 transmission being shorter. K-W appears to have one that is "15 3/ inches long" but it is $35, and the part number doesn't match up! Any suggestions appreciated. Jeff
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Posted: 02 Nov. 2019 at 2:58pm |
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804488 at walcks
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Posted: 02 Nov. 2019 at 6:46pm |
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Have you checked with Harry Sheets?
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Posted: 10 Nov. 2019 at 4:34am |
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Jeff
Do you know the length the cable should be? I have a couple used cables Edited by 85jeepcj - 10 Nov. 2019 at 4:36am |
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Jeff_Davis
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Posted: 10 Nov. 2019 at 4:30pm |
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Mine is what is referred to the long cable, which I believe is about 15 3/8" long. PM me if you have one in that range.
Thanks! Jeff
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Posted: 12 Nov. 2019 at 3:44am |
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I don’t have one that long.
I believe a m38, m38a1 stay cable is 15.5 inches long. There are some nos m38 stay cables on eBay.
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Jeff_Davis
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 7:00pm |
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I will take a measurement next week when I get back to Argentina and determine exactly what I need.
Will advise then a more accurate request. Thanks to all, so far. Jeff
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 10:53pm |
Kaiser Willys has it . $35. What do you need it for? I never knew this was a thing until I saw this post.
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 11:04pm |
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What is an engine stay cable????
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My posts are my personal opinion and are not legal advice as I am not an attorney. If you act on any of my comments you do so at your own risk.
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 11:11pm |
Haha. I was wondering the same thing. Had to look into it. According to Kaiser Willys it was used to tie the drive train together during hard use. Couldn't find anything about it in the manual. Another post i found here about it. Edited by NealzWorld - 13 Nov. 2019 at 11:13pm |
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Jeff_Davis
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 11:12pm |
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Yeah, I saw the K-W unit. $35 is pretty dear for this part... I want to install it because it is an original fixture of the CJ2A, and if Willys' engineers thought it should be there, so do I.
There are 2 camps of "why the stay cable" exists. 1. It prevents (or at least temporarily slows) the engine, transmission and Transfer case from moving forward in the rubber mounts during a hard stop or accident. 2. It prevents the engine and transmission from movement that causes misalignment of the clutch assembly. I think most stay cables were cast aside at clutch and transmission jobs of the past. It is an easy part to not replace, as there is no apparent reason for it. There are many threads on this and other forums discussing this very point. I will let you search those and make your own decision. Thanks, Jeff
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2019 at 11:49pm |
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You learn something new every day... Always wondered what this bracket was for. Now I know. Thanks yall!
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Posted: 19 Dec. 2019 at 5:24pm |
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I just returned from Argentina yesterday and had a chance to measure the distance between the crossmember bracket and the bellhousing plate, on my '47 CJ2A.
The distance is 14.5", so the stay cable would have to be a little longer than that to accept the nut and washer. Does anybody have a CJ2A stay cable that they can measure so I can benchmark the correct length of a 2A cable? Thanks and Merry Chroistmas, Jeff Davis |
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Posted: 19 Dec. 2019 at 6:07pm |
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The cable is very important. It keeps the engine from moving forward in a sudden stop. Which can allow the fan to hit the radiator.
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Posted: 21 Dec. 2019 at 8:12pm |
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My 2a cable is 15 1/2” overall length.
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