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    Posted: 17 May 2021 at 4:41pm
Here's some views of a spare tire mount I fabricated from scrap that I use off road. My intent is to keep Ol'Red as stock looking as possible but also be able to use her on narrow off road trails without scraping the spare tire off the right side of her. Using this modification doesn't put a load on the tailgate and it can be installed or removed in about 10 minutes.

Here's an overall view of the rear without the tire or gas can installed:



A detail view of the upper part of the rack secured to the tailgate chain latch using a bolt, a nut and some washers. There are no holes required to be drilled in the tailgate itself:



A detail view of the lower mount that attaches to the rear part of the frame using existing bolt holes. If the original implement hitch is installed this could easily be modified to use holes in the hitch:



Overall view with the spare tire installed:



The wood insert is to keep the jerry can from rattling.

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Nice work!  

I might add a perch at the bottom to hold the bottom of the tire weight - if it is going to see a lot of trail used.  
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Very Nice,  I notice you don't have a draw bar?  is that because it bottoms out on the trail?  I too am wanting to rig up a spare tire and jerry can on the back but mine, however mine has a drawbar of which I was considering using as the support as well as the tailgate latch like yours.   Just curious of why the Drawbar is off.   
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Ol' Red has a M-38 frame that I bought new 50 years ago to replace the damaged original frame which had been bent during 17 years of "careful oilfield mileage". M-38's used bumperettes and not the original CJ-2A implement hitch. The bumperettes didn't come as part of the M-38 frame I bought and I never put any on. If you have the original hitch then just modify the lower part of the frame to adapt to the hitch.

Edited by SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A - 18 May 2021 at 10:28am
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As a footnote to the construction of the spare tire frame, I tilted the frame out from the tailgate far enough to make sure that the frame does not contact the tailgate. The spare tire frame only contacts the body or jeep frame at the mounting points. This eliminates the possibility of damaging the tailgate through daily use.

Of course, that doesn't eliminate the possibility of someone rear-ending me in traffic! The tailgate would get damaged anyway in that situation.
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Excellent work! I haven't gotten around to fabricating mine yet. That'll come after it's, you know, running...
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Another example of same concept.   It has worked well for past couple years.

Mine started with a frame that someone created,  and welded to a Bantam trailer I acquired.



I added the legs to go down to frame,  and the angles for bolts into tailgate chain tabs.

The frame is wider than it needs to be,  but I did not take the time to cut it narrower.

Later I want to fit a larger spare,  so had to cut off the "rebar" tire mount.   Instead of putting that back,  I fashioned a way to bolt the original tire bracket.  (no mods to it,  so could mount back on side if desired some day).



Nothing special,   but might give others some ideas.     Again,  it has worked well.
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uploads/4406/TireCarrier.pdf
 
this is what got me started thinking about changing the mount to the rear. 
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That is a straight forward design; however, the center location of the spare leaves no location available for the jerry can.

I designed my carrier for the express purpose of having spare gas for the CFFC Fall Color Tour. You do not want to run out of gas on the trails so everyone tops off the tank the night before and carries a jerry can with extra gas. Mike can give you a pretty severe look if you run out of gas and have none onboard your jeep. While no one will leave you stranded, a fair amount of razzing from your fellow jeepers could occur.

Ol' Red's gas gauge is not as accurate as I would like it so the jerry can is cheap insurance about having enough gas when I trail alone.

Edited by SE Kansas 46 CJ-2A - 18 May 2021 at 5:57pm
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Originally posted by Charles Charles wrote:

Very Nice,  I notice you don't have a draw bar?  is that because it bottoms out on the trail?  I too am wanting to rig up a spare tire and jerry can on the back but mine, however mine has a drawbar of which I was considering using as the support as well as the tailgate latch like yours.   Just curious of why the Drawbar is off.   

If you are wheeling in the rocks, yes, there is contact with the drawbar.  That said, if you happen to rip one of the rear spring hangers off the frame, it keeps the axle under the Jeep.  Don't ask me how I know that----
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Nice work! There are endless variations of these. Each designed for the owners needs - no right or wrong way. I made this one last year. I'm very pleased with it.


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Ndnchf, Does the receiver hitch get in the way of a trailer hooked to the pintle hitch? It looks like it might if the trailer was much lower than the Jeep, like crawling over a log or some such.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ndnchf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 2021 at 6:28pm
My little trailer hooks to either the receiver or the stock ball mount. Currently the pintle is just used as a tie down point. This photo was before I built the tire rack.


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Duffer,  thanks for the tip.  I don't want to know that experience. 
 
ndnchf,  nice, i like the highlift jack placement. 
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