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    Posted: 25 June 2017 at 9:01pm
So I'm checking and RE packing the bearings on my Spen trailer for the trip the Alaska.
I got th bearings out and they just need packing and perhaps getting some spares to have along and I ran into the odd seal they have inside the wheel hub. Anyone ever seen one of these? There's no rubber on it at all but it seemed to be a decent enough seal.
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By the way, it had what I imagine are the original
Bearings in it, they were bower bearings. Thinking of getting replacements to save the originals.
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your missing the other half of that seal. I just pulled mine out and they have a metal insert with a leather seal. Part is labeled National 5852. I haven’t found a cross reference yet.
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Is this it?

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The dimensions of that seal dons’t seem to match.

Here’s a pic of mine.
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Hmm, looks like an axle seal to me.
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I see you have a square axle and I have seen that on another Spen. I have a round axle. Not sure if it’s original or they changed them throughout the production years. Do you have the bearing numbers?
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Yes, mine is the square axle. Mine seems to be early based on the tailgate layout. Let me check. I had the bearings out of it this summer and bought a spare just in case.
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well I hope this helps someone with a Spen. My trailer is titled 1952 and it has a round axle and 6 lugs. I would have no idea if it’s original or not.

These are the parts I pulled off the hub
Inner bearing Timkin 15118
Inner cup Timkin 15250X
Outer bearing Timkin 09074
Inner cup Timkin 09196
Seal National 5852 I replaced it with Federal Mogul 5796

Picture of new seal next to old. There was no cross reference so I went by dimensions. It fits pretty good.
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I know this thread is old, but you said you hope your cross reference on the axle seals helps someone else.  I'm here to tell you - THANKS!  Just what I was looking for as I work on my old SPEN after being away for about 4 years. 
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http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/oh-where-to-start_topic27685.html
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