To NDT or not to NDT that is the question

hmm. not sure where you heard that but i think many experienced users of NDT's would beg to differ.

have you seen what jpet and stan do with them? if not, lots of videos evidence posted here. check it out for proof positive.

CJ-2A 72586 tan (stock)
CJ-2A 197624 green (resto-mod)
the wife abides (def: to bear patiently; TOLERATE)

smfulle wrote:

NDTs are pretty good in mud...

The NDT boys are at it again. I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with that one. Just been my experience they're a slip and slide in Midwest mud.

Pretty much any soft rubber tire does just fine on the rocks. NDT's aren't that great in mud or snow (unless you heavily modify them to the point they don't quite look like a traditional NDT). For most light mud uses, they're perfect though. I love my tractor tires in all environments and never felt sketchy even with both axles being welded. There isn't a perfect answer to tires. Everything has its trade offs.

Edited by Nick_ - 25 Oct. 2022 at 12:46pm

Nick_ wrote:

smfulle wrote:

NDTs are pretty good in mud...

The NDT boys are at it again. I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with that one. Just been my experience they're a slip and slide in Midwest mud.

There is certainly a lot of slip and slide there. Wish there were some comparisons in that video though. Would have been great to see similar Jeeps with -> 7.50 big lug NDTs, mud/snow tread, KM3's, etc. and even tractor tires (although I would never put those ugly things on my '2A Tongue

)

Not sure that type of wheeling is what the OP is looking to get tires for. He is planning a "trail maintenance" rig. If me, I would never be on my trails, when that wet.

the word ugly is very subjective and solely based upon ones own tastes, knowledge, and experiences. Sleepy

Edited by bight - 25 Oct. 2022 at 10:19pm

CJ-2A 72586 tan (stock)
CJ-2A 197624 green (resto-mod)
the wife abides (def: to bear patiently; TOLERATE)

really now?

CJ-2A 72586 tan (stock)
CJ-2A 197624 green (resto-mod)
the wife abides (def: to bear patiently; TOLERATE)

bight wrote:

really now?

Actually those "tractor tires" do look cool in that photo. :-)

Yeah, now if those were still available...... LOL

'47 CJ2A PU
'48 CJ2A Lefty

"Common sense is not that common"

I'd like to offer this, from my father who was a WW2 veteran and served in Europe through fall and winter of '44 and through the end of hostilities. These are his words and not mine as I have no personal experience with the NDT tires. And I'm having to paraphrase as I don't recall his words exactly but it was something to affect this:

[ I'll never why understand why the government put so many mens lives in danger with those tires.]

So, through the enemy fire, the frost bite, the noise, the death........he noticed how horrible, in his opinion, those tires were in mud, snow, etc. He owned several jeeps immediately after returning home from the war including a surplus GPW and a brand new '47 2A.

Just one man's opinion. Take it or leave it. YMMV

This has been a fun and enlightening discussion. The property where the Jeep will be (and has been used for 20 years with modern M/S tires) consists of 40 acres of hilly woods and 11 acres of prairie grass meadow and 4 acres of lawn (need to reduce that). The woods contains trails that were the original access roads from the late 19th century (the farm was purchased by my wife's family in 1912) and trails added during logging and my own additions. The trails serve as walking/hiking paths and access to parts of the property for gathering firewood. I try to keep them "groomed" for easy walking and have grass to cut down on erosion where possible. So I won't be doing any mudding like Nick.

Because the old wagon roads are so worn, they are below grade and erosion on the hills is a constant problem. I don't drive on them when they are wet if I can help it. When I purchased a new 40HP tractor, I went with R4 tires and replaced the smaller tractor (a '64 Cub Lo-Boy) tires with turf treads to minimize damage. I run chains on both tractors during the winter, since both are terrible on ice and snow. I plan to get a set of chains for the NDTs

Thanks,

Barry

https://www.farmjeep.com/