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    Posted: 10 Feb. 2020 at 1:01pm
So this came up on Facebook page I am on that deals with Overlanding (yuppie camping in overly expensive rigs with stupid expensive crap.


SO here is what I added to the conversation

$540+ $119 (lock) + $80 for 2 gallons of fuel or water = ROFLAMO $739 to haul 2 frecking gallons of gasoline or water? I'm sorry but that's insane. And I assume the majority of people who would spend $739 to carry 2 gallons of fuel would also be the same kind of people who would have someone else install this in their rig so add what another $200-$300 and we are talking about $500 a gallon.

A real Wavian NATO Gas can is $80 for 20 L or 5.25 US gallons the mount is $40 to $60 depending on if you want locking and what style.

A Used Jeep Can 5 gallon is $5.00 to $20 at a yard sale the mount NEW is $60.00






Edited by Mark W. - 10 Feb. 2020 at 1:07pm
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Just the term "overlanding" bugs me.  At least in it's common usage.  Not so long ago people went camping.  Sometimes it was hiking in to go back country camping, or maybe it was in a camper in a camp ground, or anywhere in between.  And "car camping" was pretty much in the middle, especially if you weren't doing it in an established campground.

Then some people decide to get really serious with their car camping and would spend a month in Baja, or cross the Gobi desert, or drive around the world.  They need a different word for living out of your vehicle for months at a time, and I'm fine with "overlanding" applying to that.

But now people go "overlanding" for a weekend!  I'm sorry, that's car camping.  Nothing wrong with car camping, just don't make it sound like you're crossing the Gobi desert.  I'll reluctantly allow the use of "overlanding" if it's only 2 weeks (a month minimum would be better).  But anything less than 2 weeks is car camping.
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I guess if you can buy a 50,000 dollar vehicle to drive in the back country then 500 for a gallon of water might make sense to you. I'll never understand it but I'm just a regular schlepp. I know guy who has one of those Chevy Canyons(?) with the diesel in it. He glued about grand worth of LED lighting all over it because he wants to drive across the country. Whatever dude. My dad did it with 2 6V headlights to light the way. I guess it's all relative. 
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  Are these some of those folks Mark? 
 

I watched this because I wanted to see the Black Bear again, and see how they handled it. I'm glad I did it in a CJ2-A, not a big ol' hog like those Wranglers. I only had to back up on two switchbacks. And the CJ2-A can carry everything I need for an overnighter, or several nights. 

I had my doubts about this guy right from the start, when he said they went West from Moab to get to Ouray, (he said it You-ray. It's obvious there's a "Y" on the back end, but none on the front) Colorado. And then he kept talking about Ophir (he pronounced it Oh-feer) pass. Maybe we natives don't always pronounce the names of places in Colorado (or the state itself) the way that some outsiders think they should be said, but as long as I've been in the state Ophir has been Oh-fer.

I didn't mean for this post to turn into a rant, so, sorry, I'll sign off now.

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Overlanders...
 
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I don’t get the tent on the roof thing. Seems to me it works against the whole keeping the center of gravity low thing. 
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Would I drop that much on so little?  Probably not.  The bigger question is why would anyone care?  A free market will determine its fate, up or down.

I know this is in "Off Topic", but I gotta say this is insidious.  Don't hyper focus on the expensive tiny water jug... back off 3000ft and just see folks enjoying the same thing in a different way.  They'll think you nuts for relining a 50 year old tin can, but they'll have your back when it comes time to holler about potential trail closings.

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Originally posted by wheelie wheelie wrote:

I guess if you can buy a 50,000 dollar vehicle to drive in the back country .... I'll never understand it .... 

I do get that (not that I'd do it, but that's not about the money...).  I've built my trail vehicles, and quite honestly, they aren't as reliable as newer vehicles.  Not to say that they've ever stranded me, but that's more a function of them being simple to repair and I'm familiar with them so I'm able to repair them.

My younger son is also into 'wheeling.  He can drive my Bronco (with me spotting) over things I can't drive it over.  And now he's getting to be a good enough spotter that I can drive over some of the hardest parts too!  But he's not a mechanical engineer like I am, he's a finance guy.  He wants to get his own trail vehicle, but he doesn't want to have a project vehicle like I have.  In fact, he's even reluctant to borrow my Bronco if I'm not along (I'd let him take it).  So he wants to get a JL Wrangler Rubicon for his daily driver and trail vehicle.

Would I do that?  No.  New vehicles are too complicated for me to feel good about them.  Yes I just argued that they're more reliable, things don't go wrong nearly as often.  But when something does go wrong you are more screwed.  Plus I like the project aspect of my trail vehicles.  That's who I am.  But it's not who my son is.

Still, if he does get his JL and go off-grid for a week or two he'll be camping, not overlanding Wink
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I get the old trail Jeep coolness, but I also get the $80,000 Overlander with the tent on the roof.  Tents are the cheap part of these rigs.  $1,500 to $3,000 for a tent - seems nuts to a CJ2A guy with $6,000 in a complete small format Jeep.  But for a Yuppie making big bucks between the ages of 40 and 70 - who can have a shop put together an Overlander for a 2 week trip into the backcountry with a few friends every year - might not be so extravagant.  They just want to go - not wrench and troubleshoot and fink with the vehicle.

Just wondering how those tents are in a real storm.
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Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:

Overlanders...
 


Chad  - That's the deluxe model with the washer/dryer option!
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Originally posted by 48cj2a 48cj2a wrote:

Originally posted by rocnroll rocnroll wrote:



Overlanders...
 



Chad  - That's the deluxe model with the washer/dryer option!


Yup 👍 that’s so you can wash out your shorts when things go wrong on the switchbacks on Black Bear 😮

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Original Overlander? On display at the Auto Mart in Morgantown, PA.
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Oh man....I LOVE that thing!
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Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, Samuel Clemens all did what these guys are now calling Overlanding. There are movies of them taking model T's and wagons and trucking across the USA.  
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Mark, don't take this the wrong way because I admire the work you are doing on your rig. I just guessing the groups that would spend that kind of money on things you or I would make, think you're nuts for putting the time, energy and money into what you are building. Everyone has their wants and needs, as they say to each their own.
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Originally posted by Red Willy Red Willy wrote:

Mark, don't take this the wrong way because I admire the work you are doing on your rig. I just guessing the groups that would spend that kind of money on things you or I would make, think you're nuts for putting the time, energy and money into what you are building. Everyone has their wants and needs, as they say to each their own.

Well said, Glenn!


As usual, I just do things my own way. They can hang whatever name they want to hang on it!LOL




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Originally posted by mbullism mbullism wrote:

Would I drop that much on so little?  Probably not.  The bigger question is why would anyone care?  A free market will determine its fate, up or down.

I know this is in "Off Topic", but I gotta say this is insidious.  Don't hyper focus on the expensive tiny water jug... back off 3000ft and just see folks enjoying the same thing in a different way.  They'll think you nuts for relining a 50 year old tin can, but they'll have your back when it comes time to holler about potential trail closings.

Just sayin. 

Excellent point of view. Thanks for pulling me back in and you are absolutely correct and wise for recognizing it.

I need to work on this part of my head. I've kinda struggled all my life so I have developed an opinion that isn't always right or good or fair. Trying to fix it. carry on.
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Originally posted by Bruce W Bruce W wrote:

 
 
I had my doubts about this guy right from the start, when he said they went West from Moab to get to Ouray, (he said it You-ray. It's obvious there's a "Y" on the back end, but none on the front) Colorado. And then he kept talking about Ophir (he pronounced it Oh-feer) pass. Maybe we natives don't always pronounce the names of places in Colorado (or the state itself) the way that some outsiders think they should be said, but as long as I've been in the state Ophir has been Oh-fer.

I didn't mean for this post to turn into a rant, so, sorry, I'll sign off now.

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Couldn’t help myself from commenting, but finally someone to agree with me!  When I lived in Durango as a kid, and all my life before and since, me and the “Natives” called it “oo-ray”.  I think the yuppies must have started trying to rename it a while backConfused.  Ennyhoo, I still love to visit Khalla-redda!
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