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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2019 at 12:53am
OK I never should have said a thing. Sorry

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Mark/Tim, OBVIOUSLY you are both valued long time contributing members to this page. There is plenty of room for opinions to be shared, and many times the leeway we provide our members to stray from the original topic of the post reveals other ideas and subjects of interest.

Willys sampled their paint batches and did sprayout cards. When Renault discarded them in February 1982 a number of them were saved by employees and shared. My interest at the time was the Military colors from 41-81, but It looks like I did end up with President Red and Parkway Green from the early 60's. These have the same relative gloss as the samples of Willys auto paint from the 1940's. Yes, the Willys procedures are documented.

They could be buffed out to a higher shine, but the plant concentrated on paint thickness, not gloss. There was significant variation based on existing photos.
The most common discrepancies from original I see is the extensive efforts to make spot weld go away.


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"Mark/Tim, OBVIOUSLY you are both valued long time contributing members to this page. There is plenty of room for opinions to be shared, and many times the leeway we provide our members to stray from the original topic of the post reveals other ideas and subjects of interest."

Exactly, I like to think of threads as fluid conversations. If we were sitting around a camp fire having this discussion, no one would be told they were straying off topic. I think this gets lost in the impersonal nature of the internet sometimes. Of course, there is the other end of the spectrum where someone asks a question about tire pressure and 6 posts later someone is touting the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow. It is all about give and take.

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Oh, and my opinion is that they were fairly shiny when new. Not cut and buffed shiny, but certainly single stage implement shiny.

 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RICKG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2019 at 12:34pm
Originally posted by Doug Timme Doug Timme wrote:

"6 posts later someone is touting the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow.
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Originally posted by RICKG RICKG wrote:

Originally posted by Doug Timme Doug Timme wrote:

"6 posts later someone is touting the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow.
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African or European??


My money is on the North American Barn Swallow. We have then dive bombing us where we park our trucks at work the only thing compared to the Blue Angels they are missing is a good barrel roll.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Joe Friday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 May 2019 at 6:57pm
Yes, but neither of those swallows could carry a coconut, unless of course maybe they tied the coconut to a string between two swallows...
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Awesome! I was hoping my reference would be picked up on, otherwise I might have to break out the Holy Hand Grenade..... and this is how threads get off track....Wink
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Speaking of that, I see you made it through the storms OK.....I guess I should have titled it Jefferson City/ St Louis area storms the other day.


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Yes, we made it through OK, thanks. It is so strange that you can be fine and a few miles away from you people are getting pounded. The worst part of the storm skirted around us. 

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Gentlemen - Thank You again for your inputs. I have spoken to my paint guy who used to look after my father's old Fiat. The brief is to imagine he was painting in the 70s and try and get that kind of finish. 

The original paint samples are enormous help. 

I hope to share the results with you guys soon. 

 
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I dunno, but I painted my Jeep in tan with semi-gloss clear coat. Looks good to me.
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Yeah, but I want to know about those two pig stickers on the dash panel drawing, that seems a little random.  Particularly, the Bowie, I know the other one is a Ka-bar.🤔
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The paint samples are in the same drawer as the dash drawing I was looking at.
The pig stickers are what I use to hold the drawings down, but I took them out of their sheath's since Mark was/is a knife guy.

It's not your everyday bowie...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rocnroll Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2019 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Joe Friday Joe Friday wrote:

It's not your everyday bowie...




Well don't leave us hangin'....


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Originally posted by Rick G Rick G wrote:

Yeah, but I want to know about those two pig stickers on the dash panel drawing, that seems a little random.  Particularly, the Bowie, I know the other one is a Ka-bar.🤔


Never did get Mark's attention, but the BOWIE is unused, and was my dad's.
I think it's 1940's? Heavy SOB

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Wow! Beautiful.....that's a keeper for sure!

Take 3 or 4 minutes sometime and YouTube the late, great Guy Clark doing 'The Randall Knife'.

At least read the lyrics but it's best to hear his studio version.

I have heard it hundreds of times in different versions and have never gotten through it dry-eyed yet....always reminds me of dearly departed men in my life.

Give it a listen...you can't NOT like the emotions in the song.

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Originally posted by Rick G Rick G wrote:

I know the other one is a Ka-bar.🤔


That's an Air Force survival knife.  Did Ka-Bar make those?
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