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Steelyard Blues 
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 Topic: Trasfer case oilPosted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 2:31am |
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After doing all the pressure washing and not knowing the service history of her, I decided to change the axel and transfer case oil.
The axels had the black oil that I expected them to have. No rust, no chunks and no water. Filled them back up with GL-5 and all is well. The transfer case is a different story. The oil is of normal viscosity but the color of creamy peanut butter. I thought it might have been water but it did not appear to separate out after sitting. I'm wondering if someone filled it with something other than GL-1 and dissolved the syncros. She shifts fine, both before and after the change. She does not pop out if second. I can downshift from 3rd to 2nd with no issues. Of course, no downshift from 2nd to 1st. I have no issues from 1st to 2nd unless I shift quickly and catch it. 2nd to third is fine. I tested the transfer case and had no issues. Any thoughts? Micah  |
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1947 CJ2A 106327, Engine J109205, Tub 97077. Luzon Red
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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Unkamonkey
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 2:44am |
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That doesn't look real healthy but I have seen worse. A PO must have had it out in the water. Generally, GL 1 to GL 4 is what to use.
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Ol' Unreliable
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 2:46am |
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There are no synchros in the transfer case. I don't believe there is any yellow metal in there. You might want to drop the bottom cover and take a good look-see. It sounds like your tranny is okay, too. What's that oil look like?
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smfulle
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 2:56am |
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In most of our machines the transmission and transfer case share oil. That gold color could be from some transmission brass if modern lub was used. If everything is working fine I would just get the oil changed in both boxes and keep on driving.
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Steelyard Blues
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 4:41am |
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I should have been more clear. This is what came out of the transmission and the transfer case. Drained and replaced them both with GL-1 after reading about issues with using GL4 and 5.
Stan, any idea as to how much the life expectance of this box has been reduced? Micah
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1947 CJ2A 106327, Engine J109205, Tub 97077. Luzon Red
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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smfulle
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 5:23am |
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I’m no expert at all, and couldn’t venture a guess on how degraded you gear boxes might be. Personally I wouldn’t be afraid to run it. These things are tough. If it’s not making any crazy noises.and shifts ok I’d find another system to work on. Actually I’d put some gas in the tank and “go for a rip.”
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Steelyard Blues
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 5:51am |
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Stan,
Thanks. I have plenty to do. I have cleaner in radiator as we speak. There are new radiator hoses to go in. I have a freeze plug to replace. I think the radiator needs to be remounted. I might do an oil change. I have a lot of wiring to repair after the PO decided it was easier to cut things than remove when painting (headlights, running lights, tail lights) and some wires, like the alternator, that did not do well getting pressure washed. I need to figure out how to install the rear view mirror. I have a fan belt to replace. I need to remove the winch controls and wiring. Maybe even the winch. The fuel line is a little hokey. She is still waking up from her 23 year nap. Thankfully, I'm on vacation for the next two weeks with no plans other than tinkering and raking leaves. Micah
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https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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Adrian
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 5:50pm |
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Some oils are designed to hold any water "in suspension", so it won't separate.
I discovered this fact years ago when working on old Priestman Cranes, the gear casings sweated so much water contamination was always an issue, there was a Caltex (Texaco to you) oil that could hold up to 20% water and still work. Fresh oil and your good to go..... |
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 6:13pm |
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I agree with these guys. Change the oil and take her for a drive.
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Posted: 13 Nov. 2017 at 10:50pm |
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Change it and go!
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My shifter boots were rotten and I think the top cover was leaking. Today I removed the controls. I'm surprised. To my untrained eye, it looks pretty good in there.
I torqued the cover down to 30 Ft Lbs.. I could not find a spec. Anyone know of one? Micah  |
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https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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Posted: 11 Dec. 2017 at 3:16am |
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Looks milky to me. I would change it if there were ANY chance of water having gotten in there. Emulsified oil doesn't lubricate well. Emulsified oil will tend to look milky. Oil is cheep compared to a transmission/transfer case overhaul.
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Steelyard Blues
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Posted: 11 Dec. 2017 at 3:53am |
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I was thinking the same thing. The main reason I changed the boot was because of water intrusion. I pressure washed it once after changing the fluid. Probably 5 miles on that fluid.
Micah
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https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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Posted: 12 Dec. 2017 at 3:15am |
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I would expect tranny oil to look a bit... greener. That's what I usually see when I open mine--if there's actually oil in it...
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Posted: 12 Dec. 2017 at 4:55am |
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Other than just a little amount of rust in there, I have to agree it doesn’t look too bad in there looking at the pic. Gears and chevrons look sharp still.
I agree, that oil looks to have water emulsified in it. Brett
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Steelyard Blues
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Posted: 12 Dec. 2017 at 5:23am |
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Yeah, it was a nice light honey color when I put it in a couple weeks ago. Had I known I was going to do another round of pressure washing and that water could get in there, I would have waited on the fluid change. I'm suspecting that some of the reason the old oil looked like it did may have been from my pressure washing.
I'll get down to Napa for another gallon of GL-1. Thankfully not to expensive. Glad to see the trans appears to be in good shape. I'm trying to resist the temptation of doing another complete restoration. Now, if I could get the rear main to stop leaking so damn much. Micah
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Get yourself one of these big cookie sheets available at your FLAPS. Solves all leak problems.  |
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Posted: 12 Dec. 2017 at 3:19pm |
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Yeah, got a couple of those. The Jag likes to leak too but it is inside. The Jeep is parked in the street and I don't know if the home owner association would have a fit. Maybe the old girl needs a diaper.
I understand that it can be replaced without pulling the motor but appears to be is some issue with the new rubber seals. I'm not sure how difficult the rope is to get in there. I'm will probably have to deal with it until she gets the full restoration. Micah
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1947 CJ2A 106327, Engine J109205, Tub 97077. Luzon Red
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/steelyard-blues_topic41024_post397981.html?KW=micah+movie#397981 1965 Johnson Furnace Company M416 #6-1577 |
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