Unknown Engines and Transmission

Good Afternoon Everyone: 

Does anyone on the forum know what these engines are for.  I am guessing that they predate the jeep engines but am truly clueless.  Ideas?

Many thanks.

Regards,

Walter

Like Mark W said, "where is the distributor?"

My answer is: It could be that the Magneto was mounted to the front side of the timing case in the hole with the strap behind it. That strap could be for a generator. Thus, the magneto & the generator shared a gear that was driven by the camshaft gear either directly or indirectly through another gear. Is there a gear in the timing case there to drive a magneto & the generator, or is the camshaft gear right there to drive them both? 

The starter was bolted through the front of the bell housing on the right side of the engine. It was probably not a starter-generator as most of those did not use the kind of teeth that I see on the flywheel. Note: I said most.

With a downdraft carburetor & a magneto-generator set up like that, I also suspect it is a tractor drive unit, engine-transmission. However, the Willys L134 has been compared to a tractor engine before, by myself as well as others. I would not be surprised to find out that they are late 1920s to mid 1930s Willys engines.

The transmission, along with the pedals, looks much like the ones on tractors of that era. They also look much like ones on cars and pickups from that time as well, so...

In any case good find! What re your plans for them?

BTW, What is that sticking up from the bellhousing? Is it a tube or a rod? A tube would be to supply lubricant to the throw out bearing, I have no idea what a rod would be for.

Good Morning Everyone:

Many thanks for all of your inputs.

As most of you know my primary interest is in the WWII jeeps, Dodges and the CJ2A/3A's.  Locally I have been at this long enough that stuff just shows up from time to time.  I guy wondered into my yard and said that he was going to take them to the scrap yard.  They were interesting enough that I really did not want them to be melted down.  I recognized that they could be critical to some guy doing a restoration on some unknown beast.  We have all been there.  I traded him some lumber out of the scrap pile for them. 

My intention is to get them into the right hands of someone who can use them either directly or as parts for a project.  But without knowing exactly what they are it is a little difficult to know where to post them. 

I had come to the same conclusion that some of you have.  They have just enough of the right look that they might be an early Willys.  Does anyone know if there is a forum or website on pre-jeep Willys vehicles?  The magneto is probably a very good guess as well. 

My follow up question to that is when did the auto industry for cars and trucks move from mags to distributors?  I suspect that if they are from the 20/early 30's, it might be still possible that they came out of a car or light truck and still be powered by a mag, but dont know for sure.

I also deal with a local, collector of antique tractors.  I will ask him as well.  The tractor idea is still not out of the realm of possibilities.

I will post them on the G later today to see if anyone there can add to this discussion.  If I find out anything positive on their id's, I will post it here.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Walter

I take it back , I think you WILLYS guys are on to something Here is a pic of a 1928 Overland Whippet.... Looks close!?? 

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